Matriarchy...

[daybrown]

Is claimed by many to have never existed. Its a lot like the paleontologist coming across a bone yard, and looking at the devastation, really unique, how these great monsters have not only been killed, but dismembered. I mean, like finding the head of a T Rex in one spot, then several yards away, the tail, and off on one side or the other, the upper arms or the upper thigh separated from the lower leg. And finding some bones that have been simply sheared off like sawn.

And concluding that there is some really big mother fucking with their shit. And you try to show that to the professors, and they just dont get it. They want you to show them the bones. Or least, the track of the beast. But you got no idea of what you are really dealing with until finally, one day, you find the track.

A railroad track. And suddenly you realize the nature of the beast is more different than you imagined.

Now. Patriarchy has only worked because it was not only able to use weapons, but was able to control the use of weapons. And quite naturally, because it all depends on controlling access to women for the sake of more sons to control an ever greater resource base, patriarchy has wanted ever more powerful weapons. Which on the global level has resulted in nukes, and on the local level resulted in mass produced hand weapons and uncontrollable street crime. Patriarchy has filled our prisons, and it still cant stop the killing. It has tried to organize the great powers to prevent the use of nukes, but nobody in any of the great power centers really sleeps soundly.

And now, they not only worry about their great power threats of missiles with nukes, but also obscure bands of Jihadim or other such crazies getting their hands on the nukes, WMD, or inventing some new method to bring down a power structure that their own alpha male egos can not control.

Patriarchy has succeeded because it demanded self control on the part of men to not rape, abuse the young, or the rights of the cadres who support the leadership. The sexual behavior of the alpha male leaders is only a problem in that it demonstrates that they lack the self control they say every man should have.

In like manner, if matriarchy is going to get anywhere in this world, it will demand the same kind of self control of their sexual activity on a personal basis. Rather than forcing men to have the self control not to fuck, they will force the women to perform sexual services. Those who can do that demonstrate a higher degree of self control and will rise to the top of the matriarchic power structures. No where is this more obvious than when a young woman was in the Supreme Court of the United States to get some portion of the BILLIONS she received as the widow of an octegenarian lech for making the last few years of his life as good as any man could expect.

In that single sexual service, the young trophy blonde took over a business empire built by an alpha male. Increasingly, these young women have MBAs and know how to run things. Note as well, that another patriarchic empire, built by Hugh Hefner, is now run by his daughter at Playboy's global headquarters. We see the young women exhibit the self control and focus to get more advanced college degrees than young men. There's no reason to think that they do not, as generations of promising young men before them, control their sexuality in the ways that they find most advance and least hinder their careers.

A lotta alpha males, with the instinct to want to dominate, do not want to think about it, so they cannot understand how women will take over. and cant see the evidence where big mothers in the past were kicking ass and dismembering alpha male power structures. But that is who the notorious Aryans were. All that was ended with the evolution of virulent STDs. But now, they have the diagnostic techniques to identify carriers and the safe sex methods to deal with STDs more effectively than imperfectly practiced monogamy. Because they know that monogamy will not be perfectly practiced, they immunize the girls at puberty for HPV. Hello?

[Carl G]

Now. Patriarchy has only worked because it was not only able to use weapons, but was able to control the use of weapons. And quite naturally, because it all depends on controlling access to women for the sake of more sons to control an ever greater resource base, patriarchy has wanted ever more powerful weapons. Which on the global level has resulted in nukes, and on the local level resulted in mass produced hand weapons and uncontrollable street crime. Patriarchy has filled our prisons, and it still cant stop the killing. It has tried to organize the great powers to prevent the use of nukes, but nobody in any of the great power centers really sleeps soundly.

Are you sure we even have a patriarchy?

I do not like the terms patriarchy and matriarchy -- I do not think they are accurate -- but...

If anything I see womanhood and woman influence as far as the eye can see. Nukes and other boy playthings notwithstanding. Who brings people into the world and educates them? Who do the factories and malls -- the consumer culture -- primarily serve, directly or indirectly?

Most people are women, daybrown, or do you not read the threads of Genius Forum, (other than to express your empirical-historical beliefs)?

And now, they not only worry about their great power threats of missiles with nukes, but also obscure bands of Jihadim or other such crazies getting their hands on the nukes, WMD, or inventing some new method to bring down a power structure that their own alpha male egos can not control.

Could it be these "obscure bands of Jihadim or other such crazies" are in fact subsidized by the power structure? I think you are tilting at windmills with your simplistic world view.

Patriarchy has succeeded because it demanded self control on the part of men to not rape, abuse the young, or the rights of the cadres who support the leadership. The sexual behavior of the alpha male leaders is only a problem in that it demonstrates that they lack the self control they say every man should have.

Patriarchy has not succeeded. Seems entirely unlikely that it ever will, although one could hope. One reason is that most alpha males are actually female in their internal makeup.

In like manner, if matriarchy is going to get anywhere in this world, it will demand the same kind of self control of their sexual activity on a personal basis.

On the contrary. Matriarchy has succeeded on account of lack of self control regarding sexual activity. It is control of others through lack of this self control, actually. Bear in mind we can include such things as shopping, television, marriage, and children, as part of this sexual activity.

Rather than forcing men to have the self control not to fuck, they will force the women to perform sexual services. Those who can do that demonstrate a higher degree of self control and will rise to the top of the matriarchic power structures. No where is this more obvious than when a young woman was in the Supreme Court of the United States to get some portion of the BILLIONS she received as the widow of an octegenarian lech for making the last few years of his life as good as any man could expect.

You have a hilariously simplistic view of sex, power, societal structure, and reality, to focus on such mundane events as being bellwethers of the future. You get your news from Jerry Springer.

In that single sexual service, the young trophy blonde took over a business empire built by an alpha male. Increasingly, these young women have MBAs and know how to run things. Note as well, that another patriarchic empire, built by Hugh Hefner, is now run by his daughter at Playboy's global headquarters.

Take this example. Playboy is hardly a patriarchal empire. Hugh Hefner is a girl.

We see the young women exhibit the self control and focus to get more advanced college degrees than young men. There's no reason to think that they do not, as generations of promising young men before them, control their sexuality in the ways that they find most advance and least hinder their careers.

Again, you are overlaying your own personal bias upon mundane events. The young women you put so much stock upon are nothing special. They may be slightly more male (assertive and aggressive) than previous models, that is all. There is no evidence that they are any more wise or conscious -- true alpha -- than before. Being more acquisitive makes them even more feminine, actually. Hopped up on power does not make them matriarchal.

A lotta alpha males, with the instinct to want to dominate, do not want to think about it, so they cannot understand how women will take over.

Instinctively domineering is what you call 'alpha'? "Do not want to think about it" -- unconscious -- is what you call 'alpha'?

Okay, now I follow. You are equating alpha with, like, a reptile. You are equating it with unconscious natural primacy, which is what I call feminine.

and cant see the evidence where big mothers in the past were kicking ass and dismembering alpha male power structures. But that is who the notorious Aryans were.

You are destined to go in circles with this. In your lexicon, with your definitions, male and female power structures ARE THE SAME. There is no difference between Matri- and Patri-. It's all about kicking ass.

All that was ended with the evolution of virulent STDs. But now, they have the diagnostic techniques to identify carriers and the safe sex methods to deal with STDs more effectively than imperfectly practiced monogamy. Because they know that monogamy will not be perfectly practiced, they immunize the girls at puberty for HPV. Hello?

Here you are back on your ersatz historical-empirical kick. It's so 'old hat.' It's besides the fact. Get a little deeper, delve in philosophy, maybe. Seek a bigger view.

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[brad walker]

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[daybrown]

I dont see that matriarchy has tried to impose the hegemony patriarchy has. Its history is obscure, but wherever it existed, there were patriarchic tribes around in all directions. The most highly developed matriarchy I know of was at Kucha, and way the fuck out there in the desert, it was damn hard to get to. It was reported on several sources that the road to Kucha thru the desert was very clearly marked out... by the skeletons of the dead.

They were not trying to impose their way of life on anyone else, as we've seen patriarchy do umpteen times. So- as women take over the transcapitalist global market, there will be, as there was earlier, communities run by men to trade and compete with. If people do not want to adopt new moral standards they can, as we've seen so often, cluster together like the pilgims did, and try to make a go of it.

But global corporate culture was never fixed by scriptural dogma, and wont stop evolving now. We can see the women taking it over. No biggie. Dont go there.