Another great anti-feminist site

[Nick]

http://endofmen.wordpress.com/

[Shahrazad]

Why can't you just say the word misogynist? Calling it anti-feminist says as much about you as about the creators of the site.

Oh, and I agree, it is absolutely grandious. Why don't we invite them over here; these men really have sage potential.

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[Nick]

Because the goal of the site is to raise awareness about how feminism destroys everything it touches, including civilization. Not to hate women.

[Dan Rowden]

I think Nick needed to look a little closer; the place is really a right-wing religious front.

[Dan Rowden]

Because the goal of the site is to raise awareness about how feminism destroys everything it touches, including civilization. Not to hate women.

It may do that to some extent, and maybe also partly by accident, but its overall social agenda is itself not something I could speak positively about.

[Shahrazad]

Because the goal of the site is to raise awareness about how feminism destroys everything it touches, including civilization. Not to hate women.

Then why does hatred come through in their every breath?

It may do that to some extent, and maybe also partly by accident, but its overall social agenda is itself not something I could speak positively about.

Thank you Dan, for the words of reason. Some people here will desperately latch on to anything or anyone that puts women down.

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[Dan Rowden]

I don't see it that way, exactly. Some of those articles are a reaction against what might be considered grotesque injustices being instituted against men.

Those sites, in my experience, tend to be a case of an unreasonable agenda being argued with occasionally reasonable points. I'm not going to make any finally considered judgement of the place without looking it over more, but it's pushing certain agendas that I have no time for, and smell of Xianity to me.

[Ryan Rudolph]

The feminist movement in the west has its pros and cons, but overall it has improved the quality of life for all. Having educated women in the workforce has made the society function much better. Women are able to do many jobs much better than men, and their skills improve the quality of the state. Compare Canada to Saudi Arabia, a state with a horrible track record of human rights abuses against women, and that state's economy is very dysfunctional as well.

The major con with the feminist movement is that it gave women way too much power in the home, she has become the master for the most part, and she isn’t wise enough to have that much responsibility, but neither are most men for that matter. However, giving women the power actually exacerbated many problems such as materialism, the return of romantic love as a dominant pursuit, and all the rest of it.

[brokenhead]

About words.

Oh, and I agree, it is absolutely grandious. Why don't we invite them over here; these men really have sage potential.

Since that's not a word, which one did you mean?

I'm not going to make any finally considered judgement of the place without looking it over more, but it's pushing certain agendas that I have no time for, and smell of Xianity to me.

You wouldn't say "That site reeks of Judaism," would you? What's the point of being a genius in a public forum if you let yourself sound ignorant? You clearly aren't ignorant, are you?

[Shahrazad]

Since that's not a word, which one did you mean?

Grandiose.

[Elizabeth Isabelle]

Why can't you just say the word misogynist? Calling it anti-feminist says as much about you as about the creators of the site.

After a bit of a look around there, I'd agree it's more anti-feminist than misogynistic. The writer could have been a bit more mature in how he phrased some of it, but what I saw looks fair enough.

[Shahrazad]

Eliza,

The writer could have been a bit more mature in how he phrased some of it, but what I saw looks fair enough.

The opinion I expressed was based on the front page website I looked at and read at 4 am today my time. I just went back in there to quote to you the parts that were hate speech, and I get a totally different web page. They must have made some rather major changes in the last 8 hours. Either that, or I just went totally crazy.

Too bad I didn't quote what I saw earlier today. Sorry about that.

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[Tomas]

http://endofmen.wordpress.com/

Interesting website, Nick.

Noticed the article i posted on the Englishman (the fireman) Andy Bathie, who donated his "seed" to the lesbian ex-couple, has gone from bad to worse. If i were him, i'd sue for (partial) custody of the children. From my perspective one of, or both, the lesbians are "deadbeat moms".

ps- Gonna check out the responses to your website-thread later tonight - see what the "shrill seekers" (womyn), and "girlie-men" (panty sniffers), on this forum have to cluck on about regarding this site :-)



Tomas (the tank)
Prince of Jerusalem
16 Degree
Scottish Rite Free Mason

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[Nick]

I think Nick needed to look a little closer; the place is really a right-wing religious front.

It's obviously anti-socialist, which could be, but not necessarily interpreted as pro right wing. But I haven't seen anything that would make me want to deem it a religious front.

Because the goal of the site is to raise awareness about how feminism destroys everything it touches, including civilization. Not to hate women.

It may do that to some extent, and maybe also partly by accident, but its overall social agenda is itself not something I could speak positively about.

They clearly state their agenda here, and unless I have over-looked something it appears to have many of the same values, (Truth, Courage, Honesty, Logic, Masculinity, Wisdom, Perfection) that are stated at the top of every Genius Forum page. Obviously it's not a sight run by Buddhas, sages, or anything along those lines, but it's still nice to see there are people out there who recognize the sham that is feminism and how absolutely mis-guided it is, and the potential it has to destroy everything good in this world.

[Cory Duchesne]

I haven't dug into the site too diligently yet - I like a lot of what I skimmed over, but what I found a bit fishy was the publishers endorsement that global warming is not man made.

[shrugs] for all I know, that may be true, but then again, I don't have a good reason to think that David Suzuki is so gullible. He seems to be a good scientists who presents reasons that do a good job at justifying the perception that humans have caused and are further causing, not only a hole in the ozone layer, but global warming in general.

[Nick]

The feminist movement in the west has its pros and cons, but overall it has improved the quality of life for all. Having educated women in the workforce has made the society function much better. Women are able to do many jobs much better than men, and their skills improve the quality of the state. Compare Canada to Saudi Arabia, a state with a horrible track record of human rights abuses against women, and that state's economy is very dysfunctional as well.

The major con with the feminist movement is that it gave women way too much power in the home, she has become the master for the most part, and she isn’t wise enough to have that much responsibility, but neither are most men for that matter. However, giving women the power actually exacerbated many problems such as materialism, the return of romantic love as a dominant pursuit, and all the rest of it.

If I was a woman I would not be at all happy with the social changes the feminist movement brought on. Aside from the right to vote, all it did was make it acceptable for women to bring their sexuality to the fore-front of society, and make it so they would be more likely to end up working a shitty job the rest of their lives like the men, all of which does nothing to substantially improve society from a fundamental level. Not to mention women are now far more depressed as a whole than their counter-parts from the first half of the 20th century.

[Nick]

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I haven't dug into the site too diligently yet - I like a lot of what I skimmed over, but what I found a bit fishy was the publishers endorsement that global warming is not man made.

[shrugs] for all I know, that may be true, but then again, I don't have a good reason to think that David Suzuki is so gullible. He seems to be a good scientists who presents reasons that do a good job at justifying the perception that humans have caused and are further causing, not only a hole in the ozone layer, but global warming in general.

Watch this video and see why man made global warming is bullshit. The worst part of all the fuss about man made global warming is the way it shifts all of the attention on to carbon released into the environment as opposed to mercry, lead, and all the other truly toxic chemicals poured into the air, land, and water.

[Dan Rowden]

I'm not going to make any finally considered judgement of the place without looking it over more, but it's pushing certain agendas that I have no time for, and smell of Xianity to me.

You wouldn't say "That site reeks of Judaism," would you?

Yeah, I would say it smelt of Judaism if I thought it did. If you read the content of the "About" link, which outlines their agenda, you may or may not get a waft of the Xian there. I did. Sorry if that offends whatever sensibility of yours it seems to have offended.

[Dan Rowden]

Why can't you just say the word misogynist? Calling it anti-feminist says as much about you as about the creators of the site.

After a bit of a look around there, I'd agree it's more anti-feminist than misogynistic. The writer could have been a bit more mature in how he phrased some of it, but what I saw looks fair enough.

It's a mixture of good articles and bullshit prejudice. I don't have that much sympathy for anti-lesbian, pro-nuclear family agendas per se, even if such agendas point out the occasional injustice and social problem.

[Dan Rowden]

They clearly state their agenda here, and unless I have over-looked something it appears to have many of the same values, (Truth, Courage, Honesty, Logic, Masculinity, Wisdom, Perfection) that are stated at the top of every Genius Forum page. Obviously it's not a sight run by Buddhas, sages, or anything along those lines, but it's still nice to see there are people out there who recognize the sham that is feminism and how absolutely mis-guided it is, and the potential it has to destroy everything good in this world.

That's where I went to formulate my still somewhat contingent judgement of the place. I'm not impressed by the use of the terms we use at GF. Some of the major Xian men's movement in the U.S' talk like that. An allusion to Laird's "satire" could be made here too: same words, different meaning and agenda and conceptual reality. The articles that point out feminist follies are certain worthwhile - no argument there - but thus far I have an icky feeling about the joint. The anti-socialism stuff is another problem for me.

[daybrown]

The website dont quite fit the fundy agenda when it includes:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/de ... wledge.htm
Which implicate's Bush's CIA and Mossad in 911. Seems like once a week now, I see some clip from European media exposing 911 as a falseflag event.

But as for feminism, be careful what you wish for. when I was a young man, my sex drive was regarded as disgusting, so I learned to keep it in my pants and acquired the self control to leave women alone. And now that they can make money by selling pills to support erectile function, its suddenly OK. And now, nearly every time I go to town, there are women who smile at me and want to engage me in conversation. But I dont need sex bad enuf to put up with the complexities of relationships any more.

You mite wanna buy a copy of Hustler. The ads are instructive. Besides the standard porn, there are new technologies coming online that move way beyond the blowup dolls for horny young men to fuck with. They sit at their pcs and get off without the complexities of modern relationships or the risk of STDs and paternity suits.

So- increasing numbers of women are becoming Lesbian so they can fuck with themselves. At least, they are not making young men miserable any more. The Young women should be going to fertility clinics anyway. Its hard enuf to raise kids on welfare with them also being stupid. But if the kids are really gifted, then as they move up the grades, at an accellerated pace, there are more perks which flow to the mothers because the social workers and teachers see the smart kids and try to throw benefits to the women who bore them.

Actually, outside of some few devote, the vast majority of Christians are vastly more consumerist than the feminists and lesbians. Its the former who raise kids on sugar cereals, junkfood, and soda, while the latter have shifted quite some time ago away from all that shit twards healthier diets for their kids. As for sexuality, their girls are not hypocrites, use birth control, and dont get pregnant on welfare nearly as often. Its the Christians girls who are in rebellion.

Nobody asked the women if their husband's jobs should be downsized and outsourced. That whole idea was for the sake of corporate profits, not socialism. And since the men cant support families, the women have quit looking for husbands. Look it up, Young women, 21-30 years, now make more money than young men. And as young women move in with each other, whether they are actually lesbian or not, they create a childcare system in the home, which works even better now that the global economy runs 24/7 and there are so many careers that work with whatever schedules the women want.

So- of course, women are the masters of the houses. But so far as I can tell, their boys are better, not worse, off. Machiavelli said that when you have a man killed, be sure to let his son inherit the estate. Half the sons will have hated the old man so much they will be your secret allies. The whole idea that all sons love their fathers is bullshit. World history is full of great leaders who were bastards. The Lesbian grads from Sappho's school on the island of Lesbos, produced the greatest generations of genius the world has ever seen.

Which is an indication of how much men are in denial about what is really coming down. It does not matter if they are misogynistic. They no longer have the power to do anything with that attitude. Except, as above, rant.

[brokenhead]

Yeah, I would say it smelt of Judaism if I thought it did. If you read the content of the "About" link, which outlines their agenda, you may or may not get a waft of the Xian there. I did. Sorry if that offends whatever sensibility of yours it seems to have offended.

The offense is just in the way it sounds to me, I guess, that "Xianity" has a disagreeable odor. Which, of course, is probably how you meant it. And to the extent that "Xianity" = "Xian right hate groups," I would have to agree. Presumably that's why actually spelling out the word Christian is too odious to take the trouble to do.

But then it's your fucking website, isn't it? I'm sure you have elucidated your views on Xianity at length elsewhere on the site over the years, so no need to reiterate it. I probably agree with 95% of it, anyway.

I've known many people who reject any kind of rational inquiry into the varieties of religious experience others have because they never got past that image of an "old man with a long white beard in the sky." Not that you need to care, but it comes across as ignorant; even worse, deliberately so: "I'm ignorant, and I'm damn proud of it."

[Dan Rowden]

Yeah, I would say it smelt of Judaism if I thought it did. If you read the content of the "About" link, which outlines their agenda, you may or may not get a waft of the Xian there. I did. Sorry if that offends whatever sensibility of yours it seems to have offended.

The offense is just in the way it sounds to me, I guess, that "Xianity" has a disagreeable odor.

Well, generally it does, it being profoundly deluded.

Which, of course, is probably how you meant it.

It wasn't, strictly speaking; I meant that the site gave an impression being Xian oriented.

And to the extent that "Xianity" = "Xian right hate groups," I would have to agree. Presumably that's why actually spelling out the word Christian is too odious to take the trouble to do.

It is too much trouble for me mostly. And "X" is a traditional symbol for "christ" and therefore entirely legitimate. That's why "Xmas" is acceptable to all but Xians ignorant of that fact.

But then it's your fucking website, isn't it?

Which one? This one? Actually, no,technically it's not mine; I just post here like everyone else.

I'm sure you have elucidated your views on Xianity at length elsewhere on the site over the years, so no need to reiterate it. I probably agree with 95% of it, anyway.

What's your problem then?

I've known many people who reject any kind of rational inquiry into the varieties of religious experience others have because they never got past that image of an "old man with a long white beard in the sky." Not that you need to care, but it comes across as ignorant; even worse, deliberately so: "I'm ignorant, and I'm damn proud of it."

There is no level of sophistication in Xianity that I would regard as non-delusional, in a religious sense. There is Xian spirituality as expressed by Jesus that I am perfectly comfortable with, but which is as rare as people like Jesus.

[Cory Duchesne]

W

I haven't dug into the site too diligently yet - I like a lot of what I skimmed over, but what I found a bit fishy was the publishers endorsement that global warming is not man made.

[shrugs] for all I know, that may be true, but then again, I don't have a good reason to think that David Suzuki is so gullible. He seems to be a good scientists who presents reasons that do a good job at justifying the perception that humans have caused and are further causing, not only a hole in the ozone layer, but global warming in general.

Watch this video and see why man made global warming is bullshit. The worst part of all the fuss about man made global warming is the way it shifts all of the attention on to carbon released into the environment as opposed to mercry, lead, and all the other truly toxic chemicals poured into the air, land, and water.

I was expecting to be bamboozled by a much of mumbo jumbo, but instead I was impressed by the video's clarity and simplicity.

But Nick, why didn't they address the hole in the ozone layer? What's your take on that?

[Jamesh]

I'd call the site as Libertarian - meaning the strongest have the total right to boss others around to the point of slavery - just intellectually weak minded blokes who desire the ego thrill of dominating others and reject any bounding of traditional male roles.

Nonetheless they are probably more right than wrong, which is not something one can say for the feminist crowd. Mind you the feminist crowd is sort of half-dead, it is more just individuals exercising greed in blatant ways. Women tend to be more emotional and irrational acting so their failures get reported more.

This is not to suggest that I'm not a misogynist, I am - I don't want these (somewhat more) shallow fucks in control of society - though if one looks at modern rulers, it is hard to tell the difference between mentally male and mentally female. Still, in regards strategic thinking, women remain the lower common denominator between the sexes. They generally are happy with the first thoughts their more altruistic viewpoint produces (altrusim which is often limited to the group the matriarchal women finds offers her the best materialistic/emotional support) , and don't sufficiently understand cause and effect realtionships that occur underneath the obvious.