Avatars

Leyla Shen · Post by **Leyla Shen** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:47 pm

Does the word "wanker"......

Never mind! It's not important.

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Kelly Jones · Post by **Kelly Jones** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:41 pm

Can someone enlighten me about the "socialising" (that's what it looks like to me)? I don't mean to come down heavy. I simply don't understand it. Is it supposed to be about bonding, or a light-hearted and rapid exchange of ideas ? Is it taking the piss out of each other? Or "getting to know you"? Why do people do it?

I enjoy spontaneous, free-flowing discussion. It's a bit like downhill mountain-biking, where the bike becomes an extension of one's own movements. One can do it extremely well, when experienced and highly conscious --- so that one is not reacting and controlled by the flow, but rather always prepared, to act on the instant with a plan aligned with actuality.

(I like the thread topic, also. The more personality can be expressed, the more conscious of the movements of personality one can see.)

Ryan Rudolph · Post by **Ryan Rudolph** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:56 pm

Kelly Jones wrote:

Can someone enlighten me about the "socialising" (that's what it looks like to me)? I don't mean to come down heavy. I simply don't understand it. Is it supposed to be about bonding, or a light-hearted and rapid exchange of ideas ? Is it taking the piss out of each other? Or "getting to know you"? Why do people do it?

There is more to existence than just exploring deep truths in a serious manner, especially when one has considered and inquired into most questions more than once, and is not suffering as a result.

There is satire, and irony, and other ways to relate to people. Sometimes being humorous is a disaster and sometimes it works, but it is another way to reveal truths.

I think satire can work as a method to transmit truth if it successfully reveals stupidity in unique way, however sometimes my satire reveals stupidity unintentionally, you know what I mean Kelly?

Kelly Jones · Post by **Kelly Jones** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:46 am

Ryan Rudolph wrote:There is more to existence than just exploring deep truths in a serious manner, especially when one has considered and inquired into most questions more than once, and is not suffering as a result.

Sounds like a flight from boredom...

There is satire, and irony, and other ways to relate to people. Sometimes being humorous is a disaster and sometimes it works, but it is another way to reveal truths.

To Entertainment.

I think satire can work as a method to transmit truth if it successfully reveals stupidity in unique way, however sometimes my satire reveals stupidity unintentionally, you know what I mean Kelly?

No idea. Do you mean, you pretend to be stupid, because that way you feel like you're not really stupid, and then you can have fun to avoid realising that you're really not all that bright?

Am I socialising? Why does one need to socialise? What does it mean to socialise?

Ryan Rudolph · Post by **Ryan Rudolph** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:55 am

Kelly Jones wrote:

Am I socialising? Why does one need to socialise? What does it mean to socialise?

Many times, Socializing is usually just an involuntary response to discontent. It is trying to correct the imperfections of the other.

For instance: you are discontent with me, and that is why you are trying to correct my behavior, you are programmed to do this, as I am programmed to defend emotion as I think it is not entirely negative.

Moreover, I do not see the point in striving to become an unfeeling robot indefinitely. I think seriousness should be primary, but trying to refine oneâ€™s humor as a secondary thing is not unreasonable in my opinion.

Sentient beings need some other way to connect besides merely sharing unfeeling observations that they have shared a million times before. Lately I have been interested in other ways enlightened beings can relate besides merely repeating the same philosophical truths, and satirical humor is one possible avenue, although I have considered others.

Aaron Mathis · Post by **Aaron Mathis** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:56 am

It's true that Carl and I were bonding.

What's wrong with a little mindless, amorous, playful exchange?

All I have to say is......

'Brokeback Genius forum'

I'm Jake, and Carl, your Heath. (Jake is the guy on the left)

If you seen the movie, you'll understand.

These types here at G-forum have no compassion for amorous, free-riding souls like us.

Let's ride on outa here....

Ryan Rudolph · Post by **Ryan Rudolph** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:14 am

See Kelly, Mathisâ€™s creative satirical presentation is hilarious stuff. It reveals a truth in a slightly new way, and that makes life interesting. It reminds me of this skit, I think youâ€™re taking this masculine thing a little too far. Geese, I canâ€™t believe Iâ€™m saying that to a woman.

One should have a balanced masculinity/femininity, and I suspect that a sophisticated humor is part of that, however from my own experience humor is highly experimental, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesnâ€™t.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:34 am

Kelly Jones wrote:Am I socialising?

No. If not for your clarification, it would have looked like you were being mean and nit-picking, not socializing. Because of your clarification, you merely look socially inept - therefore closer to seeking clarification than socializing.

Kelly Jones wrote: Why does one need to socialise?

Different people have different reasons to socialize. I'm not particularly into socializing myself because I don't particularly like unstructured, purposless (or low purpose) activities, but I socialize what little I do for purposes of understanding others, as Ryan pointed out - to understand hidden truths (by "random" interactions, sometimes it is discovered that one did not even know the question to ask, therefore could not have found the answer), for varied perspectives on things, and for reminders of things that might have been forgotten. It also serves as a way to untangle one's self from one's own thoughts. Kind of like how sometimes the computer has to be rebooted, sometimes the brain needs to disengage to be able to re-engage properly.

Most people find pleasure in socializing, and if one has absolutly no pleasure in life, one might as well be dead. Even if one does not get emotional, one can recognize the tedium and ultimate uselessness of it all and find no reason to bother to do all the things that are required in order to live. Living wisely becomes an oxymoron.

Many people socialize because there is a basic desire to have a connection with others, and painful lonliness can result from not being connected - so they socialize to relieve the pain or meet the basic desire. Sufficient isolation will eventually make the lonliness go away, but certain skills go away as well. Any skill, including socializing or even just verbalizing one's thoughts, must be practiced or they will either not develop or atrophy with disuse.

Kelly Jones wrote: What does it mean to socialise?

Establishing interpersonal communication for support of general well-being.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:38 am

Ryan Rudolph wrote:See Kelly, Mathisâ€™s creative satirical presentation is hilarious stuff.

All humor is a matter of taste. I'm not finding it hilarious, but I can recognize that some people would find it funny. I just have a different sense of humor than you do.
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Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:49 am

I'm heath, and Carl, your Jake.

If you seen the movie, you'll understand.

Oh, I get it. You kids are gay.

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Trevor Salyzyn · Post by **Trevor Salyzyn** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:01 am

D'uh, Sher. That's the only reason they'd seek a balance between masculine and feminine.

Aaron Mathis · Post by **Aaron Mathis** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:10 am

Shahrazad wrote:
I'm heath, and Carl, your Jake.

If you seen the movie, you'll understand.
Oh, I get it. You kids are gay.

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How crude.

I was using heath and Jake's tragic story as a metaphor for me and Carl's free-spirited, amorous nature. In the movie, the two hero's went up into the mountains to look after sheep. They were despised and oppressed by those dwelling below.

Aaron Mathis · Post by **Aaron Mathis** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:22 am

Actually, what I find so funny is imagining the look on Carl's face when he sees how this thread is moving along.

What did you get yourself into Carl! A little harmless bonding and fun tends to snowball into something that you now perhaps want nothing to do with!

Yikes.

That is the way with femininity.

Mathis is 'Brokeback mountain'

Climb at your own risk.

You might, as a result, find yourself converted to an emotional orientation that is quite enslaving.....you'll end up like Heath and Jake from the Brokeback mountain story.

Mathis will make you think twice about approving of his feminine ways!

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:24 am

How crude.

Sorry, Aaron. Crudeness is my middle name.

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Aaron Mathis · Post by **Aaron Mathis** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:44 am

Shahrazad wrote:
How crude.
Sorry, Aaron. Crudeness is my middle name.

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Ow - come on now sugar. Don't get all down on yourself.

I'll admit, my middle name just happens to be Urolagnia

So you see? My crudeness is just more refined than yours, that's all.

Nothing to get all down in the dumps about.

Aaron Mathis · Post by **Aaron Mathis** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:46 am

This guy knows what I'm talking about.....

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:55 am

Speaking of femininity, what's with the changing of the avatars every day you "guys" ?

Above is unchanged - edit added below:

Actually Aaron, I think that's your third avatar just today... so far.

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:52 am

Nothing to get all down in the dumps about.

Ok, sweet cakes. Thanks for letting me off the hook, or I would've been down in the dumps all day without your permission to come out.

What ever would I do without the guidance of strong and manly gay men!

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Trevor Salyzyn · Post by **Trevor Salyzyn** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:17 am

Aaron, stick to men. The bio-femmes are already trying to change you.

Ryan Rudolph · Post by **Ryan Rudolph** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:24 am

Elizabeth wrote:

Speaking of femininity, what's with the changing of the avatars every day you "guys" ?

Why does an artist change canvases when he is finished a painting?

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:33 am

Ryan Rudolph wrote:Elizabeth wrote:

Speaking of femininity, what's with the changing of the avatars every day you "guys" ?
Why does an artist change canvases when he is finished a painting?

Different context. This is more like how teenage girls tend to change outfits so often just for a different look.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:37 am

Trevor Salyzyn wrote:Aaron, stick to men. The bio-femmes are already trying to change you.

No need to get jealous. You and your Brokeback Mountain buddies don't have to worry one pretty little hair on your heads.

Ryan Rudolph · Post by **Ryan Rudolph** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:51 am

Elizabeth wrote:

Different context. This is more like how teenage girls tend to change outfits so often just for a different look.

Different context. The images are being changed in contrast with the emerging text to provide that extra visual stimulus to drive the meaning home.

It is the same reason why Iâ€™d rather watch an actual documentary compared to the same interview as a radio show. It is all about dimension Elizabeth, communication with more dimension is more enjoyable.

So put that in your critical pipe and smoke it!

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:57 am

Ryan Rudolph wrote:The images are being changed in contrast with the emerging text to provide that extra visual stimulus to drive the meaning home.

Maybe that would float if the avatar just changed with the text you were writing, but when you change your avatar, the picture changes with all the text you have ever written.

Ryan Rudolph wrote:It is the same reason why Iâ€™d rather watch an actual documentary compared to the same interview as a radio show.

What you are providing is more like a documentary sound track with a cartoon video.

Ryan Rudolph · Post by **Ryan Rudolph** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:10 am

To Elizabeth,

Maybe that would float if the avatar just changed with the text you were writing, but when you change your avatar, the picture changes with all the text you have ever written.

Ah, but you only get that feel if you go back and read all my previous posts in the same day that you read my present post.

What you are providing is more like a documentary sound track with a cartoon video.

No! what Iâ€™m providing is more like some written text with a visual image to accompany it.