That's because you are a deluded, ignorant idiot.Neil Melnyk wrote:victor,
I still don't see how the world isn't zero sum.
Again. Who suffered for the creation of Beethoven's 5th?You get your roads, the deer suffer. A virus acquires a valuable new protein that the immune system isn't prepared for, you suffer.
it won't -- non-zero-sumness is pervasive in nature, because the relationship between the amount of stuff, and pretty much anything else, is non-linear.If we ascribed personal values to the deer, rocks, sun, etc, it may zero out again
Consider a very simple converse example. We nuke Earth into oblivion, and it becomes a floating dead rock. This is clearly a negative-sum event. There is no compensation for the destruction with someone else enjoying comparable benefit.
Creation is harder than destruction, but the entire fucking life on Earth is possible because of non-zero-sumness -- because evolution results in species which make more efficient use of available resources. Both negative-sum and positive-sum events exist.
I never said it was. I just said that it's profoundly idiotic to see power and greatness as coming only at the expense of others, as you do. My point was that Ubermensch has many paths open to him, but you, in your moronic myopia, only see one.The point of the Ubermensch is not to invent things that people value and hence raise the utility of human beings.
Ah, now you are changing your tack! From "what else is "freedom" but lording it out over others? What else is "power" but controlling others?" you now segue to "if little people get in the way of his goals/values, they need to be bullied".Nietzsche basically excludes his idea of the Ubermensch from Christian-morality. Does this mean he is a bully? I guess if little people get in the way of his goals/values and need to be bullied it would.
You should try thinking ever once in a while, kid. Had you done so, you would not be in this painfully embarrassing predicament.
There is a huge difference between the two. Control of one's self is also power. Control of one's life is also power. Mastery of skills is also power. That was my whole fucking point -- that power can be expressed in many more ways than lording it out over, and controlling, others. Your problem from the beginning was the dunderhead belief that power on the backs of others -- gangsterism, basically -- is the only path open to Ubermensch, the only path possible.The will to power is not necessarily a desire to directly control people. Power is control or influence though.
Good of you to finally recognize that one can authenticaly express their will-to-power by creating and by helping others, not just by destroying and enslaving.Nietzsche is against morality and recognizes humans as just another animal. Helping others vs. harming them -- both are creation to him.
This was far more convoluted a journey than was necessary, kiddo. I had to fucking drag you here by your nose ring.
Beethoven's 5th.When you create in a manner that reflects your values, you are destroying something that reflects conflicting values. I don't think you could give me an example where this isn't true.
And if you say that in creating the 5th symphony, Ludwig destroyed the absence of it, you will be even greater an idiot than I thought.
hahaha. "I am sure i am right, even though i cannot even construct a plausible scenario of how i could be, much less actually prove that i am". Are you listening to yourself, child?Beethoven had a large influence over people. I'm sure it came at some costs though I can't pin them down at the moment.