GENIUS FORUMS

An article from <a href="http://www.reuters.com" target="top">Reuters News Service</a>:

Quote:Quote:<hr>Geniuses, Criminals Do Best Work in Their 30s
Wed July 9, 2003 05:54 PM ET
LONDON (Reuters) - Geniuses and criminals may not seem to have much in common but they both do their best work in their 30s -- and mainly to impress the opposite sex.
When Satoshi Kanazawa, of the University of Canterbury in New Zealand, studied biographies of prominent, mostly male scientists he discovered that they made their key discovery before their mid 30s, around the same age that criminal behavior peaks.

He believes the male competitive urge to attract females is a driving force for the scientific and criminal achievements, according to New Scientist magazine.

"They do whatever they do in order to get laid," said Kanazawa.

He added that the competitive drive decreases with age and as men's priority shifts from competing for women to taking care of their offspring.

"Kanazawa also found that marriage dampens the drive in both arenas," the magazine added.
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So true. The male sex drives permeates everything they do without understanding and consciousness. Greg Shantz recently alluded to this. It is a difficult struggle to overcome initially and it shows itself in subtle, tricky ways at times.

I don't think the point is to supress sexual feelings, but rather to see them and understand them for what they really are. This understanding changes the feelings. I will still catch myself noticing a pretty girl while standing in line at the grocery store, but I don't really want to fuck her anymore. I credit my understanding and my 34-year-old libido (i.e. hormones there but no longer raging) with the loss of this urge.

Tharan

Hell yeah, too true.

Tharan wrote:
Quote:Quote:<hr>I don't think the point is to supress sexual feelings, but rather to see them and understand them for what they really are. This understanding changes the feelings. I will still catch myself noticing a pretty girl while standing in line at the grocery store, but I don't really want to fuck her anymore. I credit my understanding and my 34-year-old libido (i.e. hormones there but no longer raging) with the loss of this urge.<hr>
I've been thinking about this, could it be that you've lost interest because you've abandoned all hope of the possibility of hooking up with such a girl? My brilliant new theory of the day is that hope is what causes sexual desire, not hormone rage. All I have to do is figure out what exactly is being hoped for. I don't think it's as simple as it looks.

I don't think there is no possibility of hooking up her if that is what I wanted. I'm a pretty decent looking guy if I do say so myself, hehe. And these days marriage is not really an obstacle if your heart is really set on screwing around. I could even probably talk my wife into some form of "open" marriage if I really wanted to. We experimented a little together in the early years.

But the point is to see what the act of fucking is as well as whatever effort it takes to get there. A person has to be ripe for knowledge. A decade ago, when I was in my early 20's, I was not ready for deep reflection. I was full of testosterone and dreams of glory and conquest. These intense feelings change the apparent cost/benefit analysis of these types of situations.

Would I expend energy to try to get that girl in bed now, married or not? No. Would I fight that guy who is talking trash on the basketball court now? No.

My desires are different and the result of the cost/benefit analysis is also different. My libido is present but diminished a little, my thoughts are clearer and with direction. Fighting and fucking are no longer so relevant to me.

Tharan

I was kind of the opposite. I was never athletic, so fighting never appealed to me. Never really had any enemies anyway. Not sure why, though, given some of the comments I would make about people sometimes. I was a musician/computer geek, so I had the artistic/individualistic mentality going on. I didn't have many friends, but I got along with just about everybody I knew. I've always been really conscientious about what people think of me, so that's probably why. I had quite a few female friends in high school that I talked with on the phone, but I could never figure out how to turn them on. I always the just-a-friend type. It's always seemed disgusting to me to act aggressively towards another person. It just seems like a rude, desperate thing to do. I've never expended any long-term effort in trying to get a girl, and let quite a few get away out of apathy. So the only girlfriends I've ever had were ones that were aggressive towards me. Now, you're never gonna get a decent chick going that route, at least not one you're going to be very attracted to (that should be a law or something), so I've never really been attached to any of my girlfriends. But somehow, my idea of women as sex objects became highly idealized, so although my physical libido has decreased a bit, my psychological libido has actually increased with age. I find the actual act to be quite dull when I'm engaged in it, but remembering it is amusing to me. I don't know, it's strange and disturbing.

Avoid the Jewish pseudo-psychology. Many people do things to get laid, but often, people do their life's work BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT.

The gender thing gets too big. Women shouldn't vote or drive (*). Get over it.

* - Neither should anyone else.

I'm bumping this because I don't want it to go in the archive yet. I found this intersting and want to know if anyone has any further thoughts. So heres some questions to get it going.

Do we think too much and not fuck enough, or vice versa?

Is the drive for accomplishment in life the same as the drive to get laid?

Does one empower or overpower the other?

Quote:Quote:<hr>My brilliant new theory of the day is that hope is what causes sexual desire, not hormone rage<hr>

So if you were to watch a porno movie you would not be excited because there was not hope of being with the *star* of the movie?

Quote:Quote:<hr>Do we think too much and not fuck enough, or vice versa?<hr>

Yes. By the time you get done thinking about it, you could have done it already.

Quote:Quote:<hr>Is the drive for accomplishment in life the same as the drive to get laid?<hr>

The drive to accomplish can be caused by different things. Your parents told you that you would amount to nothing, so you wanted to prove them wrong by accomplishing something in life. Or, your parents accomplished a lot in their lives, and you wanted to be just like them. Or, you have a OCD or some such chemical imbalance (or bipolar) and your particular strand causes manic stages (or obsessive but productive conduct) that manifests itself it great accomplishments, or perhaps you are trying to combat a low self-esteem issue.

The drive to get laid can be ego driven as well or hormonal or a combination of both. Or, perhaps it is a way to gain control over another human--to gain some type of power.

Does one empower or overpower the other? I defer to the others on this one.

This "study" is ridiculous, unscientific, and is proof
that anti-Menism (which is a religion) is dominating all
human thought these days.

Is it better to do your best work to please yourself, instead?

What about doing your work to please other people?

Quote:Quote:<hr>What about doing your work to please other people?<hr>
Jesus did that already.
How old are you, and from what congregation?

I'm 24 and I don't go to church anymore, but I was raised a devout Christian until about 16 when I stopped going, and started questioning things. Depression, drugs and philosophy took care of the rest.

Dan Rowden created The Thinker's Inn
for people like you and me.
Have a beer.
OK, a coke then. Or coke.

it's all desire, baby. as you start to control (realize) your desire, they become less petty, or useless. Eventually, you will eliminate all desire for this reason. Then you will be FREE and you can play life instead of life playing you!!!! :)