Just an experimental forum

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Just an experimental forum

Post by Kevin Solway » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:24 am

I was trained as a biologist, and the biological sciences are very closely related to philosophy and spirituality - especially evolutionary biology - and so I thought the topic might be of interest here.

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Post by David Quinn » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:46 am

I'm not sure that I agree with this decision. What is the purpose of it?

The subjects of biology and evolution are intimately tied up with all other aspects of philosophy, so I don't see the need to create a whole new forum for it. If we are going to go down this path, then by rights, we should also be creating separate forums for A=A, cause and effect, logic, quantum physics, women, etc. Why is biology being given this special treatment?

If we're not careful, we will soon be aping Common Ascent with its overly-compartmentalized format, which will only serve to academize and trivialize the issues.

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Post by Elizabeth Isabelle » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:36 am

In all fairness, although his post highlighted biology, the forum is called "Science and Evolution" so sciences other than biology could easily go here.

I will agree though that the downfall of a number of message boards is too many forums for the quantity of posters to support. With more threads on one forum, one might be more likely to spot a topic to contribute to that they might not spot if they had to fish through a bunch of forums to see if there was anything interesting going on.

As it is, there does not seem to be much sorting going on. A lame enough post on Genius will get demoted to Worldly Matters, but some of the ones posted on WM seemed more suitable for GF but were never "promoted" to the other forum. I think a lot of people don't really understand at first where things should go. It isn't like it's clearly labeled "Serious" and "Non-Serious" so stuff seems to just go where it lands.

I can see the concept of trying to encourage a broader range of topics, but just starting some threads on different topics would accomplish the same thing. I threw a seed on here to help out. If it sprouts, fine - if not, that's fine too.

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Re: Just an experimental forum

Post by Kelly Jones » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:21 am

I think Kevin's idea is interesting. As Nick Treklis recently indicated, there's a strong belief that empirical truths have nothing to do with the Infinite.

As Second Life shows, people are deeply enthralled with the idea underlying scientific materialism, that there is a mysterious divine fingerprint underlying the "Universe". Logic just flies out the window.

Somehow melding "Worldly Matters" and this new forum could provide a gateway for exploration that goes down to the Universe. I.e explores and grounds at the same time.

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Post by Ryan Rudolph » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:55 am

Kelly wrote:
As Second Life shows, people are deeply enthralled with the idea underlying scientific materialism, that there is a mysterious divine fingerprint underlying the "Universe". Logic just flies out the window.
How does Second life illustrate this Kelly? You haven’t even gone into the game to explore the circles of ignorance and degrees of intelligence, do you always make a habit of making crude generalizations about things that you have no direct experience in yourself?

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Post by Kevin Solway » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:11 pm

David Quinn wrote:I'm not sure that I agree with this decision. What is the purpose of it?
I just thought I'd float the idea.

I had in mind the idea of trying to attract young people who are brought up in the "religion" of science, and need some sort of a bridge to carry them across to the sort of material we talk about on the main forum.

I'm talking about the sort of people you find on the Common Ascent forum, who would find our normal sort of material (like A=A) completely alien.

If we're not careful, we will soon be aping Common Ascent with its overly-compartmentalized format, which will only serve to academize and trivialize the issues.
This is true, and there's also the danger that Elizabeth pointed out, that there'll be too many forums to support, and the focus or spirit of the place will be lost.

I'll probably move these threads back to the main forum, but we'll see how it goes.

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Post by Kelly Jones » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:29 pm

Ryan, i'll reply to your comment in a new thread.

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Post by Tim » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:28 am

How about if you start a ladies forum where they can post their henids about what men are discussing. You have a board dedicated to masculinity and most of the posts are by females. It's good to have them around, but they are distracting. It's nice to look at their pictures too.

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Post by Shahrazad » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:58 pm

How about if you start a ladies forum where they can post their henids about what men are discussing. You have a board dedicated to masculinity and most of the posts are by females. It's good to have them around, but they are distracting. It's nice to look at their pictures too.
How utterly condescending. Who is this Tim anyway?

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Post by Matt Gregory » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:46 pm

Some jackass.

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Post by Katy » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:37 pm

nazi. Think he's gone.
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Post by Ignorant Carl G Arse » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:35 am

biology=specifics and proofs that can be used.

philosophy=rambling

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Post by Dan Rowden » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:52 am

That would be your personal philosophy, right?

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Re: Just an experimental forum

Post by Tomas » Tue May 22, 2007 12:28 pm

Kevin Solway wrote:I was trained as a biologist, and the biological sciences are very closely related to philosophy and spirituality - especially evolutionary biology - and so I thought the topic might be of interest here.

-tomas-
First time (right now!) read your header on this.. musta been asleep at the wheel :-)

I like it , Kevin. Keep running with it and toss some stuff our way. aka, your specific field[s] of interest.


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VietNam veteran - 1971

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