It is not a matter of "seeing it" that way. It is that way by definition.freelight wrote:I see how this could be seeing the All as some kind of collective totality
The All comprises of all things, by definition - not just conscious and intelligent beings.the All comprising the collective consciousness/intelligence of all beings.
This is because you are not yet sure what you mean by "God".I am not sure if 'God' is a slave of Its own fate
We can study whether Joe Bloggs down the road wears the pants in his marriage, but we cannot study whether God has a free will. To know such things, you have to know exactly what you mean by "God".
Consciousness means experiencing things. And you can only experience things in the world of relative things. No other kind of consciousness is possible.But for now....we experience things with-in consciousness related to our finite existence in this realm
God cannot know anything in the normal sense, other than through us, and in the manner we know things. And we cannot possibly know everything that is knowable - eg, every discrete detail of everything happening in the Universe.Uh huh,..........because Gods Self-knowing and Intelligence is in the I AM Center of our own individual awareness. In this purivew....God as the Sole Mind Existing is the Original and Infinite Consciousness existing and knowing all that is knowable.
All things comprise the Totality, by definition. And this must logically be Infinite.Ah,......so it appears that the Infinite includes within its Totality a myriad of finite things, expressions, matter-ial forms, things/beings, universes, etc.
It could happen, through cause and effect, that all conscious life is killed-off before it attains God-realization - perhaps in the same manner that Jesus was killed, because he was different and was perceived to be a threat - or for any other reason.Your understanding of cause/effect is interesting as the law of Nature/God prevails thru-out, yet this seems to include in your View that some individuals may not evolve to God-realization/salvation or a perfect perception of Truth
It is wrong for a person to presume to know God's will, especially when they aren't even sure what God is to begin with.I have held to a universalist View that Gods Love/Will will ultimately prevail because its His will that all be saved/delivered/restored
People are caused to become wise if they are so caused, and are caused to remain in ignorance, or die out completely, if so caused. There is no surefire way to predict the future....brought back into perfect Unity/Marriage with the ONE, the ALL.
No scientific knowledge of any kind can be any help when it comes to understanding philosophical and spiritual matters, since all scientific knowledge rests on uncertainties, while philosophical and true spiritual knowledge rests on logical certainties.. . . wave structure of matter