encode_decode wrote:Indeed. It is kind of freaky I think. I also think science strips a way at us more than just the ability to think beyond it. I noticed a whole bunch of questions I can answer without the help of science, and these answers are more important to me than all of science put together.
How I should be thinking is the primary example. Science does not give me the best method for thinking. Is everything as it seems is the question I always ask myself when reading scientific literature. Scientific literature claims this is how it seems a lot of the time. The only way I need to think is the scientific way. I may as well just believe it if a scientist says so.David Quinn wrote:What is an example?
But actually I do not need a set of blinkers - I need to think in a way that brings truths to the surface not partial truths otherwise I can not expand my mind to think outside what science has to offer.
Do I need to compete with others to achieve great understanding in life? No - But the education system seems to think so.
Do I need an ego to be happy? No - But it sure seems like it if one were to take notice of the general populace.
Do I need to spend thirty years stressing out over a mortgage on a house? No - But the banks and real estate agents seem to have everyone convinced as such.
Do I need to tell lies to get what I want? No - I only want to be able to eat everyday if I can not have anything else.
Do I need to be doing things like society would have me believe? like the image of how to be the perfect spouse, parent and person - No I don't - for a start I am who I am.
Do I need to intimidate people to have respect? No - I respect me.
I have a whole bunch of questions like this - It is not science that I need to answer these questions. I find Psychology to be one of the worst offenders as it is "forever" changing and labeling certain problems that don't even exist. Even neuroscience makes bold claims that another scientist comes along and dismisses. AI researchers do not really seem to have any idea what they are doing - I have only ever seen two works in AI that impress me - the rest are no better than the browser we are using from my perspective.
What I mean by a closed system is: Some church - to me science has become more like a church - science has become promiscuous and adulterous metaphorically speaking. The stupid thing about it is I can see the value of science and all it has to offer - I can discern the things in science that could benefit us and the things that are a waste of time and effort. David I could keep going on and on but I see no benefit to it.
To know that things are not right in the world I only have to have my mind working "properly".
Ultimately though - nothing is as it seems- you could be a p-zombie before all I know.