Re: Why do people have the desire to talk?
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:55 am
I can summarize your interpretation of my understanding of self, the world and causality very simply: it is incorrect. Truth: I, consciousness, do not interpret an enduring self or an enduring world. Truth: I, consciousness, do not take the concept of causality literally.
If you are willing, I suggest we return to the two premises that brought us to this point:
1. The goal of enlightened consciousness is the ending of desire. It is my understanding that both of us agree with this statement.
2. That the ending of desire via insight meditation can come about while engaged in relationship (conventionally known as friendship, marriage, parenthood, grandparenthood, etc.). It is my understanding that you do not agree with this statement.
To take something literally is to take language literally. Hence there is no forgetting of language when 'taking literally.' Wisdom doctrine such as given by the Buddha is not ultimately meant to be taken literally, rather is purposed to support the mind as it awakens to the truth of emptiness and impermanence. Ultimately, all attachment to doctrine is dropped.You see, it's all to be taken literally, but forgetting the language, it's very obvious in your own experience if you take an authentic and independent look, free of concept clinging. Hence I suggest more meditation and contemplation in solitude.
No need since your reasoning is based on a false assumptions of my understanding of self, the world and causality.Will add to/edit this comment later, as I understand a lot of what I've written so far is incomplete as reasoning/vague.
If you are willing, I suggest we return to the two premises that brought us to this point:
1. The goal of enlightened consciousness is the ending of desire. It is my understanding that both of us agree with this statement.
2. That the ending of desire via insight meditation can come about while engaged in relationship (conventionally known as friendship, marriage, parenthood, grandparenthood, etc.). It is my understanding that you do not agree with this statement.