The problem of a perceived centre

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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The problem of a perceived centre

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When cobwebs are cleared out, clear thinking is the effect. If anyone has more clarity, I welcome your thoughts.

Absolute truth #1: All things are caused. Causation determines every moment. In any given moment, one does not know what thing or things are going to be caused. Which means caused things are hidden to consciousness until they are deterministically revealed (aka God's will).

Absolute truth #2: The law of identity, A = A. Caused things are the law of identity in action, that is, they are what they are in and of the moment of having been caused, aka their existence (God does not play dice with the universe).

Absolute truth #3: Caused things appearing from the hidden deterministic causality appear as fleeing, momentary understandings. It is this truth of understandings (things) being "caused of the moment" of multiple unknown causes that causes the ego grief as it likes to consider itself a singular independent entity, the prime mover or causer of things, aka belief in inherent existence. In other words, the ego creates a void in existence and fills the void with its beliefs, not realizing that it was caused by God, the hidden causality to do so. Ignorance is caused just as is wisdom. Reasoning reveals that there is no actual void anywhere in God or the causality in which the ego can stand so as to cause anything of its imagined singular will.

Absolute truth #4: Reasoning the things of God reveals what is true of God based on the reasoned truth of God that He/It is a totality or causality of things absent of inherent existence.

To understand these four absolute truths causes freedom in the sense that there is finally an understanding of why one had to suffer their seeking of absolute truth (their ignorance), that being the longstanding wrong view of God or self as residing in the centre of causality causing things according to what it has heard or what was said in a holy book or a book of science, no difference. The metaphysical, therefore psychological problem of God or self as "king of the world."
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Absolute truth #5: Timelessness. Having reasoned (realized) the truth that there is no centre anywhere in God, there comes the realization of truth that there is no beginning or ending to causation or God.

Absolute truth #6: The causal continuum. Having realized the truth of the timelessness of causation in concert with the realization of the truth of no central "I" or self, there is a putting to rest the ignorance of belief in a self-in-time, a self that ascends or reincarnates, aka a self that is redeemed or made perfect. As well, knowing one is of the causal continuum and is not a central entity that becomes better or higher or more perfect ends attachment to suffering, the offshoot of belief in an imperfect central entity striving to become perfect.

A side note to truth #6: It is reasonable to conclude that philosophers who were raised in a strict or strong-believing religious environment, either the ancients that were raised to believe in good and evil gods (selves) or the moderns who were raised to believe in the idea of God as the Perfect Ideal of Self would find it more difficult to release wrong (ignorant) view of a perceived centre. It is no wonder biographies of philosophers who are identified as "ex-believers" or "atheists" or autobiographies of philosophers who self-identity as "ex-believers" or "atheists" speak so often of intense inner struggles of conscience (of self).
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Re: The problem of a perceived centre

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People like centers. With themselves within its event horizon, if not themselves as the actual center.
There is no center. There is only a vanishing point.
Everything vanishes into it, especially the perceiver, until perception vanishes.

Absolute truth #0:
There is no truth that is not absolute truth, complete with its absolute paradox.
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Welcome crow,
People like centers. With themselves within its event horizon, if not themselves as the actual center.
What does what people like have to do with what is true?
There is no center. There is only a vanishing point.
Everything vanishes into it, especially the perceiver, until perception vanishes.
You've just given me another center and called it a vanishing point.
Absolute truth #0:
There is no truth that is not absolute truth
And whatever truth you have you have reasoned for yourself. If this is not so, how did you come to know what is true?
complete with its absolute paradox.
Truth, by definition, has no contradiction.
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Re: The problem of a perceived centre

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To my mind, "there is no center" suggests an architectonic order. That is, all the parts support and modify one another, and through the interaction of them, order emerges.
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If all the parts interacting together is order, why would they (need to) emerge? Why not 'just' be order?
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Great question. Because the order is cause, and its results are effects. A good argument to that effect here:
All order is local — which is to say the negation of the universal. That is merely to re-state the second law of thermodynamics, which ‘we’ generally profess to accept. The only thing that could ever be universally and equally distributed is noise.

http://www.xenosystems.net/against-universalism/
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