Meaning Something
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:18 am
Hopefully D wont delete this thread.
The search for meaning is the search for the answer to aggripa.
Either a beleif system is built on :
1-Unjustified Axioms
2-circular justification
or
3-Infinite regress of justifiers.
Its seems clear that those are our only options.If you think on this it seems that everything is meaningless.There is no truth or rather there is truth...or there is neither truth nor no truth...but really there is neither "neither truth nor no truth"
We can not move nor not move nor anything , nor nor either of them under aggripa. So the search for meaning is crucial.
I plan to do this.
First we study a different philosophical topic ; Form. There is form and formlessnes. The question "how something can come from nothing" is equivalent to "how can form come from formlessness.
And can be equivalent to "how meaning can come from meaninglessnes"
Lets represent these questions in a mathematical form.
Prime numbers when represented with stones as the greeks used to do form a line.They cannot be arranged as squares as that would have meant they could be factored into the numbers that the sides of that square had, and prime numbers do not have any factors. They cannot be arranged in cubes or rectangles or any shape because that would imply factors.
Now with time the number 1 was dropped from being assumed to be prime .This means prime numbers cannot be represented even as a line , because that would mean that one side would have a width of one (with the other being the prime number) and so it would have 1 as a factor.But prime numbers have no factors besides themselves.
So really prime numbers have no *form* and only composite numbers (6,12,56...) or sqaures,cubes,rectangles...have form.
The fundamental theorm of arithmatic states that all natural numbers are built of the product of primes and prime powers (uniqely).
So we see composite numbers have form ,but that form (by the fundamental theory) is derived from formlessnes.
Perhaps this could represent how meaning can be formed out of that which is meaningless and not suffer from being formed out of unjustifiable axioms.
The prime level repressents all the *observable* universe or aggrip_asia with no meaning while meaningfulness can be derived from it and still be meaning*full*
Giving meaning to truth, and the truth of truth.
Lets examine this deeper
Lets form a cartesian product of the prime number sequence with itself, the x axis is the prime sequence while the y axis is the same.
The composite numbers 6,15,28...are to be found on the plane.The axi's represent aggripa_asia .The most we can say about them is that the axis represent the fact that prime = prime ,the axiom of identity. Form or meaning belongs on the plane.
now this representation was inspired by a search for something.Meaning. But it seems we got more than we expected.An individual number on the plane represents meaning/form but what would a curve on this plane mean?, what would the gradient of a line on this plane mean? what would the area under a curve stand for.
The meaning plane comes with these other truths [which to be honest i havent figured out], but more truths become evident when we increase the number of axi's.And we should see that to be consistent we need to increase the axi's by prime numbers. 2 is prime so we have been ok up to now with 2 axi's so the next will be 3 then five,then 7...
All this has been guided by a search for symetry.I have not justified that.The justification should come from perhaps the study of these forms of forms on these cartesian planes. Perhaps the gradients of curves or something on this plane show the true significants of trancendental numbers such as pi and the golden mean phi..which are found in the spiral of galaxies and flower petal arrangement (phi that is).
So how do we move from aggrip_asia to meaning.What would multiplication represent..
I dont know...
What do you guys think?
The search for meaning is the search for the answer to aggripa.
Either a beleif system is built on :
1-Unjustified Axioms
2-circular justification
or
3-Infinite regress of justifiers.
Its seems clear that those are our only options.If you think on this it seems that everything is meaningless.There is no truth or rather there is truth...or there is neither truth nor no truth...but really there is neither "neither truth nor no truth"
We can not move nor not move nor anything , nor nor either of them under aggripa. So the search for meaning is crucial.
I plan to do this.
First we study a different philosophical topic ; Form. There is form and formlessnes. The question "how something can come from nothing" is equivalent to "how can form come from formlessness.
And can be equivalent to "how meaning can come from meaninglessnes"
Lets represent these questions in a mathematical form.
Prime numbers when represented with stones as the greeks used to do form a line.They cannot be arranged as squares as that would have meant they could be factored into the numbers that the sides of that square had, and prime numbers do not have any factors. They cannot be arranged in cubes or rectangles or any shape because that would imply factors.
Now with time the number 1 was dropped from being assumed to be prime .This means prime numbers cannot be represented even as a line , because that would mean that one side would have a width of one (with the other being the prime number) and so it would have 1 as a factor.But prime numbers have no factors besides themselves.
So really prime numbers have no *form* and only composite numbers (6,12,56...) or sqaures,cubes,rectangles...have form.
The fundamental theorm of arithmatic states that all natural numbers are built of the product of primes and prime powers (uniqely).
So we see composite numbers have form ,but that form (by the fundamental theory) is derived from formlessnes.
Perhaps this could represent how meaning can be formed out of that which is meaningless and not suffer from being formed out of unjustifiable axioms.
The prime level repressents all the *observable* universe or aggrip_asia with no meaning while meaningfulness can be derived from it and still be meaning*full*
Giving meaning to truth, and the truth of truth.
Lets examine this deeper
Lets form a cartesian product of the prime number sequence with itself, the x axis is the prime sequence while the y axis is the same.
The composite numbers 6,15,28...are to be found on the plane.The axi's represent aggripa_asia .The most we can say about them is that the axis represent the fact that prime = prime ,the axiom of identity. Form or meaning belongs on the plane.
now this representation was inspired by a search for something.Meaning. But it seems we got more than we expected.An individual number on the plane represents meaning/form but what would a curve on this plane mean?, what would the gradient of a line on this plane mean? what would the area under a curve stand for.
The meaning plane comes with these other truths [which to be honest i havent figured out], but more truths become evident when we increase the number of axi's.And we should see that to be consistent we need to increase the axi's by prime numbers. 2 is prime so we have been ok up to now with 2 axi's so the next will be 3 then five,then 7...
All this has been guided by a search for symetry.I have not justified that.The justification should come from perhaps the study of these forms of forms on these cartesian planes. Perhaps the gradients of curves or something on this plane show the true significants of trancendental numbers such as pi and the golden mean phi..which are found in the spiral of galaxies and flower petal arrangement (phi that is).
So how do we move from aggrip_asia to meaning.What would multiplication represent..
I dont know...
What do you guys think?