Diebert van Rhijn wrote:
Well, all you're contemplating are ideas. All derived supposedly from a combination of senses, memory and logic (and all not limited to your "own brain" either!). What you really want is the ability to understand what is true and real, as to distinguish from what is false. And if one doesn't want that, why even be here to discuss it?
You can throw the garbage man out as well of course. But you'll notice that he pops up the moment your hand reaches for "the next thing". Then you start to realize the nature of that garbage man, as well as your hand.
The next thing. haha Cause and effect only pops up again because that's what you think is happening. Its not. Cause and effect doesn't exist. It is logically proven to be a contradiction.
Tell me that cause and effect is logical and then tell me how you skirt around the logical proof of its illogicalness.
But experience does not provide any meaning. Without meaning, you don't have any reality! To call experiences the hallmark of reality, you're throwing reason on the garbage heap and claim to have done philosophy. It seems lazy and nihilistic. Meaningless stupidity and random imagination are not "real" unless you change the real to mean also the unreal. But then you're not talking about reality any more but about absolutes. Your experiences however are subjective and relative, that's their nature.
Are you saying a meaningful experience is a contradiction? Why can I not have a meaningful experience?
I can talk about an orange all day long. I can describe the enzymes. I can describe the history of oranges. I can tell you about its genetic makeup. I can go on and on and on. But how do I describe the taste to one who has never had an orange? What reason is there to the taste of an orange?
Struggle just implies it's not easy. But there are aspects to philosophy which challenge whatever gave meaning and direction before. Self preservation mostly.
I'm just saying in order to struggle there must be something to struggle against. The goal is to overcome.
Self preservation is as good a goal as any.
There cannot so such thing like an uncaused event. By definition an event is "something that comes" -- and goes. It's a change. Which is another way to describe causality. Things change because they do not exist as thing: they appear only to us as effect and cannot be constant. Change is real, the constant can only be eternal.
I'm telling you that change isn't real.
All things change.
Change is a thing.
Therefore change itself must change.
How can change (the constant that can only be eternal) change? haha
You tell me about change, but it doesn't make any sense. You're telling me something that is illogical. Do you see it?