The reality of transcendence

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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Urizen
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Re: The reality of transcendence

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There is no Transcendent God, there is only God-as-man
To know "God-as-man", is to know God's transcendence of man; to know who you are, is to transcend yourself. You cannot have immanence without transcendence.
choosing between an action that produces good fruit (emotions) and one that produces evil fruit (emotions)
Emotions are incidental to whether an action is good or evil. A good deed produces a positive emotion because it displays goodness; it is not good because it displays a positive emotion. It is good for the same reason that beauty is good: it radiates the Truth, whose two sides are the Good and the Beautiful. "Goodness is internal beauty, and beauty is external goodness."
which he does by transcending his immediate emotional reaction to something and meditating/reasoning (meditation-reasoning = transcendence) upon the various causal possibilities of setting this or that spirit or emotion into motion (action).
That is correct. But above Reason is Intellection. Just as Emotion is transcended by Reason, so Reason is transcended by Intellection. Intellection is an infallible means to knowledge due to the unity ofa Knower and known in this mode of perception. So don't stop at Emotion; transcend Reason as well.
In other words the task of the wise man is to be the reasoning conscience of causality
The fruit of Reason is cleverness. Wisdom is the fruit of Intellection. Only the Intellect can receive direct knowledge. Reason proceeds from man to God through the intermediary of language and logic; the Intellect proceeds directly from God to man.
on the spiritual-emotional realm,
Emotion is of the psyche. Spirituality is of the Intellect. Just as Emotion is subordinate to Reason, so Reason is inferior to Intelligence.
the realm of consciousness of life, a task he cannot perform if he is not conscious of both good and evil causal possibilities.
Knowledge of Good and Evil is a gift of the Intellect, not of Reason directly.
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Re: The reality of transcendence

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ardy wrote:I agree with your OP but this one smacks of 60's thinking that has taken the Western world towards a state of quiet anarchy, ignorance and the idea that you don't have to work hard. You can also ignore the ideas of men [mostly] who were greater than you are and maybe, if you don't work hard, you will never reach their level of attainment [assuming you have the brains to start off with].

This hubris comes around due to the philosophy of 'take nobodies views, trust no one, make your own judgements' or 'you can be whatever you want to be' plus the myriad other isms the 60's thinkers came up with. We 60's people produced 2 generations who would not take a job as it did not fit their idea of what they wanted to be, until the work force tightened up following the GFC, and now they can't find any sort of job. Our protection and smothering of these youngsters has ensured they are not fitted for doing it tough. To a large extent they have fallen back on the 60's people or their first generation children to smother and protect them from anything unpleasant again!?
There is a false idea in the world about working hard and pain is gain. We need to realize that we are more than we see in the mirror. We are divine spirits in human form. It's meant to be easy!! There is no deserving in the kingdom of heaven and earth. You can do nothing to deserve wealth, success, and happiness, because you exist in this marvelous world. You were born immaculate.
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