Leyla Shen wrote:Might I point out that I was addressing the ad hom in jupiviv's last post. That you considered your excerpts from what I said to be about my attacking male egotism says more about your brand of it than mine, dear.
You mean "Ottoman crone"? It seems you still haven't understood the meaning of "ad hominem". It only becomes that if there's no other actual argument being made, as if the whole reply relies on the evaluation of a person, especially a supposed character flaw which would taint that person's argument being made. You made a post which
only contained a remark on his bruised ego as reason for your dismissal of his argument, compared to Jup's insulting remark about the "Ottoman crone" which was stuffed on top of his argument that "Christian morality" would not likely apply to someone raised in India in a Hindu culture. In that context it's perhaps
rude to call someone a crone but
not ad hominem, since his argument is not changing if you'd change it to "Ottoman maiden".
I hope you understand the difference and understand why you have
misapplied yet again the term in your desire to
score in your hunt for little pleasures. And it's not clear to me what your definition is of "Christian morality" despite some vague link to a video. You brought it up after Jupiviv referred to a saying known within and beyond Judaism ("plank, brother") but the plank phenomenon is better known as
projection. Check your psychoanalysis, sister. And since you invited a comment on the original lines:
Jupiviv wrote:A deluded person wrongly believes a deluded action to be in accordance with a true thought. He wrongly thinks so either because the thought is false (ignorance), or because he is not acting in accordance with it (hypocrisy). The action itself is necessarily real, unlike the thought, which may be illogical and hence unreal.
The action itself, being "necessarily real" as you called it, would always remain beyond truth and false because it's the contextual interpretation where all evaluation would be happening. But since this always will have some degree of relavity and uncertainty attached, the delusion only becomes really completely manifest in the fully abstracted thought. Especially when it comes to absolutes!
Oops, I already wrote that on the 19th. I guess you didn't read it!