The question of death

[TheImmanent]

there ultimately is no such thing as a self independent from the rest of the universe

Since things can only be separated conceptually.

[Dennis Mahar]

Thankyou, perfect wisdom.
generous and kind.

[TheImmanent]

Thankyou, perfect wisdom.
generous and kind.

The merit is yours.

[Dennis Mahar]

To undertake the Inquiry is meritorious.

Fortunately, there's a regularity in conditions, for instance if there wasn't, lighting a candle might plunge the room into darkness which has never been found to occur.

Coming from regularity enlists the possibility of 'correct view'.

[Dennis Mahar]

Heidegger stepped aside from the view that it's a dream or it's an illusion and investigated how it appears conventionally from the conventional mind.

Prepositions stood out.
Pre position organised structurally as an always/already 'set up'.
An 'I' in a place and time.

So, a story of me and us and them.

A preposition links nouns, pronouns and phrases to other words in a sentence. The word or phrase that the preposition introduces is called the object of the preposition.

A preposition usually indicates the temporal, spatial or logical relationship of its object to the rest of the sentence as in the following examples:

The book is on the table.
The book is beneath the table.
The book is leaning against the table.
The book is beside the table.
She held the book over the table.
She read the book during class.

In each of the preceding sentences, a preposition locates the noun "book" in space or in time.

A prepositional phrase is made up of the preposition, its object and any associated adjectives or adverbs. A prepositional phrase can function as a noun, an adjective, or an adverb. The most common prepositions are "about," "above," "across," "after," "against," "along," "among," "around," "at," "before," "behind," "below," "beneath," "beside," "between," "beyond," "but," "by," "despite," "down," "during," "except," "for," "from," "in," "inside," "into," "like," "near," "of," "off," "on," "onto," "out," "outside," "over," "past," "since," "through," "throughout," "till," "to," "toward," "under," "underneath," "until," "up," "upon," "with," "within," and "without."

At home peacefully

At = preposition; home = noun; peacefully= modifier

In time

In = preposition; time = noun.

Being-in-the world
being-in-action
Being-towards-death

embodied, encultured, enactive, affective, extended.

[TheImmanent]

To undertake the Inquiry is meritorious.

Fortunately, there's a regularity in conditions, for instance if there wasn't, lighting a candle might plunge the room into darkness which has never been found to occur.

Coming from regularity enlists the possibility of 'correct view'.

Indeed. I merely intended to point out that, while wisdom may be put to words in the best use of language, few and far in between in the world are those who conceive it. As blessed as they are rare. For bliss is never undeserved where it is found.

[Dennis Mahar]

Whatever wells up from well-spring cannot be different from
Whatever wells up from well-spring cannot be same as

not one, not many conceptually.

no essential conflict.
Hip, hip hooray.

no grounds for prejudice.

intelligence defines as the recognition of same and different in this instant.

A coherent Context to live from.

[TheImmanent]

Whatever wells up from well-spring cannot be different from
Whatever wells up from well-spring cannot be same as

not one, not many conceptually.

no essential conflict.
Hip, hip hooray.

no grounds for prejudice.

intelligence defines as the recognition of same and different in this instant.

A coherent Context to live from.

Moments of clarity are best celebrated in diligent meditation. For like the mind learns anything by repetition, so too does it consolidate wisdom. Whenever it strays, it has another demonstration to meditate upon. Until no ground remains for it upon which to stray.

[Dennis Mahar]

Moments of clarity are best celebrated in diligent meditation. For like the mind learns anything by repetition, so too does it consolidate wisdom. Whenever it strays, it has another demonstration to meditate upon. Until no ground remains for it upon which to stray.

There it is.
Survival.
a set of assessments, a range of options and a winning formula.

This bio-computer is thrown that way.

Wisdom is candidatureness.

It requires a candidate.
thrown that way.

[TheImmanent]

Moments of clarity are best celebrated in diligent meditation. For like the mind learns anything by repetition, so too does it consolidate wisdom. Whenever it strays, it has another demonstration to meditate upon. Until no ground remains for it upon which to stray.

There it is.
Survival.
a set of assessments, a range of options and a winning formula.

This bio-computer is thrown that way.

Wisdom is candidatureness.

It requires a candidate.
thrown that way.

The candidate is not a separate nature. Survival is not at stake.

The truth of a true idea is not dependent upon the method used to reach it. Nor is a true idea made false due to the method.

The method lies in what is the most efficient way of dispersing misconceptions in the context of the limited mind — so as to see what is already there.

Hidden by convoluted ideas.

[Dennis Mahar]

Moments of clarity are best celebrated in diligent meditation. For like the mind learns anything by repetition, so too does it consolidate wisdom. Whenever it strays, it has another demonstration to meditate upon. Until no ground remains for it upon which to stray.

Moments of clarity are best celebrated in diligent meditation.

suggesting something is at stake.
to what end.

For like the mind learns anything by repetition, so too does it consolidate wisdom.

suggesting something is at stake.
to what end.

Whenever it strays, it has another demonstration to meditate upon.

suggesting something is at stake.
to what end.

Until no ground remains for it upon which to stray.

suggesting something is at stake.
to what end.

a set of assessments, a range of options, a winning formula.

Wisdom detaches itself at a point for it to be wisdom.
When the conditions for fire are not present the fire detaches.

Until no ground remains for it upon which to stray

a body of wisdom accumulates upon an original misconception.
it's empty and meaningless that it's empty and meaningless.

this ceases, that ceases
this arises. that arises

what's on the menu?

[Dennis Mahar]

consider this:

a logical deduction concerning wisdom is that it infers phenomena exists from its own side (very subtly).
therefore it is dependent arising.
therefore it has no true existence.

for instance,
the Tao, a body of wisdom,
once it is picked up and believed in it is rendered a concrete thing-in-itself when in fact it is dependent arising and has no true existence.
It may be useful, functional Tool-Being to live by and that is all.
You may get a job professing it and that would constitute a performance only.
geddit?

wisdom is taken on trust,
a trust issue requiring candiditure,
it is dependent.

[TheImmanent]

A child fears a monster under his bed. The parents know that the child is not in danger. But in the context of the child, they may look under the bed, and show the child that there is no monster. All it was, was a misconception.

Wisdom is detached from ignorance only in the way a true conception is detached from a shallow conception.

[Dennis Mahar]

Wisdom is concerned with form.
depends on form.
no form, no wisdom.
it has an 'in order to for the sake of' about it,
formulaic to set the scene.

whatever depends is not in nature true existence.

life and death, being form, being dependent arising are not in nature true existence.

For form to be concrete, thing in itself it must operate under it's own steam.
That condition has never been found.
The Universe is not concrete, thing in itself, despite appearances.
It is infinite, meaning not-a-thing.
It is an appearance in mind.

[TheImmanent]

Wisdom is concerned with form.
depends on form.
no form, no wisdom.
it has an 'in order to for the sake of' about it,
formulaic to set the scene.

whatever depends is not in nature true existence.

life and death, being form, being dependent arising are not in nature true existence.

For form to be concrete, thing in itself it must operate under it's own steam.
That condition has never been found.
The Universe is not concrete, thing in itself, despite appearances.
It is infinite, meaning not-a-thing.
It is an appearance in mind.

The argument falls on its own conclusion since form is not correctly understood as a separate nature.

[Dennis Mahar]

The argument is that form lacks inherent existence and that this lack of inherent existence lacks inherent existence.
Astonishing.
There's no one here.

[TheImmanent]

The argument is that form lacks inherent existence and that this lack of inherent existence lacks inherent existence.
Astonishing.
There's no one here.

You are what you are. But you are not inherently what you are dependently, since your essence is infinite.

[Dennis Mahar]

dependent or independent.
which?

Let’s try to find fire as an element existing in and of itself. Fuel is not considered fire. Oxygen is not fire. Heat is not fire. Friction is not fire. If these conditions are cleared away, or even one of them, such as oxygen, there will be no fire left burning.
Therefore, apart from the conditions of fire, there is no fire.
Fire is not an independent element, but an interdependent entity.
It has no essence of its own. It is in this sense that fire is said to be empty.
The same can be said for a self or subject, consciousness, death, and all phenomena.

[TheImmanent]

dependent or independent.
which?

Self-dependent.

[Dennis Mahar]

A condition.
Therefore dependent on causes to show up.

[TheImmanent]

A condition.
Therefore dependent on causes to show up.

Self-definition. Causes are conceptual.

[Dennis Mahar]

Causes are conceptual.

Yes, the imputing mind generates environment, bodies, pleasures, sorrows, activities.
ineffable silence.

What matters?

[TheImmanent]

Causes are conceptual.

Yes, the imputing mind generates environment, bodies, pleasures, sorrows, activities.
ineffable silence.

Nothing is created or destroyed. A cause or a process is no different from the discernment of a thing; they are merely the discernments of several things sorted in relation. There is no spearhead of time. Time is a constellation of conceptual natures, all of which share the same essence, by which they interact.

There are infinite present moments, sorted over a temporal distance to this present moment, future and past only in relation – but the past is not gone, the future is not unrealized, except in relation to other present moments, other constellations of conceptual bodies. Time is essentially timeless; it is but the vantage point of a conceptual nature, which is itself not separate from the one essence.

Nowhere is there nothingness, for nowhere does something cease. A finite thing does not disappear; being finite is merely to be assigned to particular coordinates in space-time. All these conceptual things are forever discerned in the same timeless essence; self-illuminating thought, which is your essence. When you experience timelessness, you experience your essence, which is not limited to a specific place or time.

What matters?

What lies behind all dramaturgy is essence – the all-attractive one. This essence is what the ego-identity unknowingly seeks in all its desires, though it does not know where to look. For since the limited mind is assigned in space-time, it is capable of conceiving there to be ”other natures” than its essence – which is also in all these other things but known by direct experience only through itself. Thus it turns away from its essence on its hunt for mirages. But the wise learn to trace their desires back to the root, to that which is immanent in all things. There they find bliss.

[Dennis Mahar]

All that is wonderful.
Thanks.
That essence you speak of is pure, uncontaminated Buddha mind.
A possibility for direct experience.

The ol' bud is largely talkin' to imputing mind from Buddha mind.

He wanted to explain a middle path twixt 'essence' and not denying 'imputing mind'.
It is the purification of imputing mind as the set task.

The problem with the philosophy of essentialism (religion) is that it falsely constructs separation nasties like godism, racism, sexism, speciesism, nationalism, tribalism giving rise to arrogance, violence, guilt, fear and shame.
Untold, unnecessary suffering.
The priests, priestesses raining shame and guilt on the unwitting.

Dependent arising connects.
we are each other's existential possibility for love of being.

[Fox]

Understanding is mood.
The moods at 'the party'.
What is encountered are moods, the rest is information.

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