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Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:17 pm
by Dennis Mahar
Yeah, well he said it too ok?
the difficulty with lingo it automatically splits subject/object.
generate a lingo that avoids that seeker.
get cracking.
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:29 pm
by SeekerOfWisdom
Dennis Mahar wrote:Yeah, well he said it too ok?
Ok, I wasn't implying anything.
Dennis Mahar wrote:
the difficulty with lingo it automatically splits subject/object.
generate a lingo that avoids that seeker.
get cracking.
A:
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:47 pm
by Dennis Mahar
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:52 pm
by SeekerOfWisdom
Dennis Mahar wrote:A:
Don't shout!
Another case of lacking inherent quality, ^ that makes sense to you, but not me.
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:08 pm
by Dennis Mahar
(;
freedom to be
plenty of nothin'.
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:52 pm
by SeekerOfWisdom
To bask in.
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:48 pm
by Kelly Jones
Kunga wrote: Dualities are mispeceptions of the Non-dual.
KJ: No, they're not.
Kunga: Depends on what your definition of non-dual is .
Also, if something is non-dual, that, in itself implies it's nature is non-dual, so any perception of duality would be a misperception.
Also, if emptiness means that nothing inherently exists [everything is dependent on other causes for it's existence], form and emptiness are non-dual.
Form is Emptiness
Emptiness is Form
You've just contradicted yourself. Since form and emptiness are both the non-dual, any form or duality (e.g. a perception of duality or of non-duality) must be the non-dual.
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:57 am
by Kunga
Kelly Jones wrote:You've just contradicted yourself. Since form and emptiness are both the non-dual, any form or duality (e.g. a perception of duality or of non-duality) must be the non-dual.
Ok. You got me on that one. But there are really no contradictions if all perceptions [including a "misperception"], are non-dual.
misperception/perception = duality = non-duality
so all is non-dual....even misperceptions
oy vey
no right or wrong perceptions
all perceptions are conceptions
all are equally empty
Re: Consciousness vs. the Infinite
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:29 pm
by Kelly Jones
Kunga wrote:KJ: You've just contradicted yourself. Since form and emptiness are both the non-dual, any form or duality (e.g. a perception of duality or of non-duality) must be the non-dual.
Kunga: Ok. You got me on that one. But there are really no contradictions if all perceptions [including a "misperception"], are non-dual.
No, you're making two mistakes there. (1) Perceptions aren't non-dual, they are
made of the non-dual. They are actually dualistic in their nature, being forms. But all forms are parts of the whole, which is obviously nondual. (2) Contradictions remain contradictions, and non-contradictions ditto. Distinctions and dualities remain exactly themselves always, and don't suddenly become a mush of indistinctness. If you think so, you're being illogical.
no right or wrong perceptions
Internally contradictory. You spout these things like a canary, with no understanding of what you're twittering about.