Earth is Paradise

[SeekerOfWisdom]

Seriously. Paradise.

You were warned. All I can do.

[Dennis Mahar]

Have a look at the 10 Oxherding pictures please John and let me know your take on it.

there's different readers reading and commenting.

reading is always/already for human being an 'ink blot test'.

you'll 'read' what is 'read' from your 'readership'.

language gets taught and 'readership' doesn't.

find a 'luminous' reading that feels like mojo to your readership.

if there's no luminous one forget it.

[SeekerOfWisdom]

10/10

Although they don't go in that exact order, least not for me.

If you get them all why did you originally try to dispute what I was saying? Did you think I was contradicting "no thing" in my mind simply because it was by written word? "Dream" is good.

I personally think you convey "no thing" much, much too obscurely, no one is going to come to realization by you telling them about dependent origination by itself.

But I guess no one is going to come to it my way either.

Not our fault. One in a million. Baby.

*take a look at the "projection nature" of the earth and it's many manifestations in your mind for a moment...

[Dennis Mahar]

Lucky I was searching "genius forum", how'd other people get here?

dreamboat.

[SeekerOfWisdom]

-.-
That a joke? If so, we both know you aren't allowed to do/say anything till you clarify your position.

[Dennis Mahar]

dependent origination means 'harmonious relations'.

picture 5.

[SeekerOfWisdom]

what's your point?

[Diebert van Rhijn]

Fruit is falling from the trees, some are ripe while others aren't and yet they fell. Interested passersby will pick up the ripe ones and discard the prematures. Now how would one ever know that the time was ripe? Just because it fell?

[SeekerOfWisdom]

Take a bite.

You can tell what's ripe if it's flavor is right.

[Tomas]

Take a bite.

You can tell what's ripe if it's flavor is right.

Poor choice, Eve.

[Dennis Mahar]

Although they don't go in that exact order, least not for me.

They do go in the order depicted.

Firstly, Spiritual life is desired before they come in to play.
Most people don't want that. they just want an 'edge'.

You said 'harmonious relations' was your issue.
Do that.
make it a strong suit.

They exist 'in concert'.
No separation.
departure, journey,arrival.
the profound logic of the symphony.

10 part movement.
looking at it as a whole.

(assessment)

[Diebert van Rhijn]

Take a bite. You can tell what's ripe if it's flavor is right.

That's the thing, you were guessing no one is going to bite you. Don't blame the infertile!

[SeekerOfWisdom]

Tomas, one of the only people that's sure he hasn't been eating from the tree of knowledge, are you sure? Is earth paradise?

lol Diebert it isn't the apples it's the people, they are full and need to be emptied before they even consider taking a bite.

Although they don't go in that exact order, least not for me.

They do go in the order depicted.

Firstly, Spiritual life is desired before they come in to play.
Most people don't want that. they just want an 'edge'.

You said 'harmonious relations' was your issue.
Do that.
make it a strong suit.

They exist 'in concert'.
No separation.
departure, journey,arrival.
the profound logic of the symphony.

10 part movement.
looking at it as a whole.

(assessment)

I have no issues, other people have issues, and I'm simply in the way, circumstance, so I attempt to try and lessen issues for everyone's calming benefit, either way for me it's still the same, there is no departure and arrival, only the journey.

Laird is on the first picture! That's why he doesn't bite.

And they didn't go in the order depicted, the first thing that ever happened to me out of these pictures was "The illusion of reality being separate from the mind was shattered", Batman: The Dark Knight of the Souls occurred before I ever new what I was doing, it hit me both with pure "dread"/fear and excitement without even knowing what enlightenment was really about.

[brad walker]

Hi John,

What do you think of the philosophy clearly expressed in the following video? What's the flaw?

Take it!

[SeekerOfWisdom]

That it's not a philosophy, plus our way of life is a product of nature in the same way.

So, purposefully obscure and vague on their own opinions which is a sign of your intelligence guy, how have you been? Has your break from GF trolling been beneficial for you?

[brad walker]

I'm meeting your request for the contention to stop. I offer an olive branch and you reject it :(

[SeekerOfWisdom]

I accept it then, thank you, dear friend.

How was your Christmas?

What do you think about earth being paradise?

[brad walker]

That it's not a philosophy, plus our way of life is a product of nature in the same way.

There's a worldview and ethic succinctly presented. Our way of life?

[SeekerOfWisdom]

It said something about how we've abandoned the natural way, I think it's an absurd claim to say nature has abandoned it's own way.

[brad walker]

I accept it then, thank you, dear friend.

You're welcome :)

How was your Christmas?

Great, but too many pairs of socks and underwear!

What do you think about earth being paradise?

It's a paradise of possibilities!

[SeekerOfWisdom]

Three new undies for me!

I was grateful for every last one of them.

[brad walker]

It said something about how we've abandoned the natural way, I think it's an absurd claim to say nature has abandoned it's own way.

Of course it's absurd to say Nature has, but what about nature? Isn't that what all this Enlightenment business of eliminating the ego is about? U.G. Krishnamurti made a big fuss about calling it "the natural state".

[SeekerOfWisdom]

That is in reference to the enlightened state of consciousness, or "empty mind", now he isn't being precise because both are products of our nature, but what they mean really is that when the mind isn't caught in delusion/suffering, (born of attachment, desire, and identification with Self and thoughts) it is in the *No false knowledge and ignorant actions* state, (ignorant actions being ones that cause suffering) and this is a wiser way of being and hence it seems more natural to them. Technically all of our nature is natural.

[brad walker]

now he isn't being precise because both are products of our nature

Yes, he made a fuss about renaming it "the natural state" because often seekers mistake Enlightenment with a multitude of transitory enlightening experiences.

(ignorant actions being ones that cause suffering)

Was this man's action ignorant?

Technically all of our nature is natural.

Yes, this is why it's absurd to say that Nature has abandoned its own way.

[SeekerOfWisdom]

His action was natural