Earth is Paradise

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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That's not enough.
Think of the market.

I want the book and the movie.
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The market? As if such things were ever written for money. You are a very pessimistic person.
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I never said money.
You said money in your introduction when you raised the possibility of making a few bucks because you said everyone's doing it.
try and be consistent.

For whom is the performance?
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Do you use money Dennis?

Did it again, I said it could be done for whatever people wanted and the only thing you know I was going to talk about was enlightenment.

You keep acting like there are rules for what you should do in this dream.

For whom is the performance when you write whatever it is you have ever written?

How long do I have to put up with your resentful attitude?
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You said:

there is a possibility of making a few bucks

and later

As if such things were ever written for money.

contradictory.

don't turn it on me.
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In order to attain liberation,
the Buddha taught, one must disassociate
oneself from volitional action.
This is done, not by refraining from
volitional action, which would not be possible, but by refraining from
believing that there is a real self which does real acts.

For whom is the performance?
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The possibility of making a few bucks would have been a different group helping topic to the writing one wouldn't it? lol your talking about nothing again here.

Yes, it is a grand showing and illusion. All too aware of it, it is our nature too, completely empty, I look in the mirror and know it is not really me, how fucking incredible a dream this is. There is intelligence clearly in what the mind displays. The fact that we have it ourselves shows there is intelligence within its scope. What happened to not losing one's "humanity"? Whatever that is.

The Buddha was about complete extinction from the cycle of life and death, shouldn't that be our goal, complete detachment, ending sensual craving. This is apparently not so bad in one life or another, but as a continual cycle is great suffering, to me it seems one has to die to achieve this, pretty ironic. Not really sure about this, clearly as I've never not returned.

You are God. The nature of existence is dreaming, the universe exists only in the mind. Having belief in knowledge and not recognizing it for what it is, not real, is what leads people to think of more and try to explain it. (unreal explanations). "Know nothing" means "Know no thing". Don't eat from the tree of knowledge, or you will be kicked out of paradise.

You can act smart but the truth is you are exactly the same as you have always been, children of the mother, your intelligence has never increased, you have never aged or changed. Some feelings have changed, that's it.

People seem to have a lot of knowledge about these mysterious unexplainable feelings changing.

If we look just a little closer at this sensation we will see what it is made of.

Not that you created and designed anything, just that this is all within you, simply what you are.
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The possibility of making a few bucks would have been a different group helping topic to the writing one wouldn't it? lol your talking about nothing again here.
If people point out contradictions in your story it's not because they are resentful it's because there are contradictions in your story.

If the Buddha's simple observation of impermanence is enrolled in,
then lack of an intrinsic self is a logical consequence to enrol in.

We have to be careful what we infer as a result of that.
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lol, being resentful means you are being resentful, you are contending your little heart out. See what I mean by we are all children? You are 62 and your still lying to yourself. I could find 20 comments that contain nothing but a short sarcastic insult in the last three threads.
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"Living off the welfare and your brothers kindness"

Usually to teach someone they are being an idiot you just repeat the same thing to them:

Wearing a nappy yet Dennis?

^This is called childlike contention and ignorance. I would have to do a hundred of these to catch up to you.
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SeekerOfWisdom wrote:lol, being resentful means you are being resentful, you are contending your little heart out. See what I mean by we are all children? You are 62 and your still lying to yourself. I could find 20 comments that contain nothing but a short sarcastic insult in the last three threads.
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Cahoot wrote:"Situations are my guru."
- Trungpa Rinpoche
Kenny Rogers - The Gambler wrote:You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done

Now every gambler knows the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away
And knowin' what to keep
'Cause every hand's a winner
And every hand's a loser
And the best that you can hope for
Is to die in your sleep
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Geez John,
this listening/language base sure has its difficulties.

a breakdown or upset arises out of an undelivered communication.

it can be the authorship or the readership.

perhaps it's my readership.

can you see why I could contend there appears to be contradictions in your statements?

where there's a breakdown there's a possibility for breakthru'.

what are we gonna play for?
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Practice?
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Tomas you are an idiot
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Lol, the difficulties are coming from your attitude Dennis. Like Tomas here who couldn't hide the ignorant grudge he has with all the explanation in the world.
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Going to start pointing out every person who comments for the singular reason of making sarcastic insults and showing off how ignorant they are.
Tomas you are an idiot
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He is an idiot. Idiots follow people around looking to insult them or point out their grammar flaws. Wise people let those people know they are being idiots, it wasn't sarcastic.
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Whoever will point out flaws should be considered as a teacher... feel free to call me an idiot when I'm following you around speaking like this:

Dennis makes some sarcastic comment about my age or perceived personal attriubutes while directing it in conversation to someone else. Including made up fantasies like welfare.

I reply:

"Dennis is a dear one, so old and frail, his mind doesn't seem to be too strong any more, how long till his heart gives out I wonder?"

^This would be me creating contention and being ignorant. Its as close as I can get to a reverse of what you do. I would have to do this 99 more times to catch up to you.
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Anyway, that is enough of that, sorry for the offences guys, let us stick to either not talking to eachother at all or not arguing.
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In post mortem,
sifting the ashes,
exposing the soft underbelly,
where it rankles,

The 'welfare and brother's kindness' was a stinger.

Money is a 'hot potato'.
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No, just a good example of how you are making things up in some kind of game.

So, if you were in the middle of a dream, how would you act? What would you do?
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So, if you were in the middle of a dream, how would you act? What would you do?
It looks like you've taken on the I am God thing.
The Mother of errant children in the task of scalding and correcting the little kiddies with the promise of a bag of sweets.
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Dennis Mahar wrote:
So, if you were in the middle of a dream, how would you act? What would you do?
It looks like you've taken on the I am God thing.
The Mother of errant children in the task of scalding and correcting the little kiddies with the promise of a bag of sweets.
Super! Almost priceless.
Don't run to your death
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It renders the situation intelligible.
It's what seeker told us.

There's nothing right or wrong going on here.
Philosophy is of the subjective experience and the sharing of the subjective experience generates the recognition of commonality of experience.

Wrangle with a human being hard enough and long enough and he/she will tell you their 'resolute way of being' or 'act' in the form of a metaphor or myth or story of selfing.
The selfing is the persistent point of view or winning formula.

Being (spirit) is no thing, ex nihilo, empty set.
The recognition of that is not a mystery.
The mystery is the covering up of being as the Greeks revealed in the 'wearing of masks/personas' expose.

'all the world's a stage and we are the players upon it' isn't some kind of an insight that is meant to fill us with shame,
rather,
it opens up the being of human being.

seeker asks,
So, if you were in the middle of a dream, how would you act? What would you do?
If I woke up in the middle of a dream should I simply get on another horse and dream that?
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