Purpose & Purposelessness

[Cahoot]

Apparently, the purpose of awareness is to keep the body alive long enough to perpetuate the species by reproduction, and then to keep the body alive long enough to nurture the reproduced. After that, forest sadhu, golf, WalMart greeter, whatever.

Reason aids awareness in the sense that the body is more likely to be kept alive longer by an intelligence that accurately interprets changing conditions without the distraction of delusion, a reasonable intelligence that doesn't need to actually experience stupidity in order to gain wisdom from an obvious causal chain.

Philosopher, does perpetuation of an idea qualify as reproduction?

[Patrick Watts]

Apparently, the purpose of awareness is to keep the body alive long enough to perpetuate the species by reproduction, and then to keep the body alive long enough to nurture the reproduced. After that, forest sadhu, golf, WalMart greeter, whatever.

I see no objective purpose to awareness. However, these things you mention are common external things, or forms. These are values of low level awareness, or rudimentary values for rudimentary awareness.

Reason aids awareness in the sense that the body is more likely to be kept alive longer by an intelligence that accurately interprets changing conditions without the distraction of delusion, a reasonable intelligence that doesn't need to actually experience stupidity in order to gain wisdom from an obvious causal chain.

Yes. Another way to put it is that reason acts like a filter, or a selection device, teasing out the particles of gold from the particles of sand. It's common for people to get lost in irrelevant pathways or details. A moth is aware of the flame, but the moth is not aware of it's absurdity. The flame is a literal form coming through the senses. Absurdity, on the other hand, is abstract.

A fool is someone who is attached to objects through the senses, attached and enslaved by the literal.

does perpetuation of an idea qualify as reproduction?

Reproduction is generally defined as a finite thing born from another finite thing. Consciousness, on the other hand, is not a limited thing that can be duplicated. At a certain point, one must give up learning, put aside gathering knowledge. If you keep watch closely, you will discover what you are; something that is eternal, unborn. By definition, what has no beginning or end cannot reproduce. Wisdom is seeing what one already is and maintaining that formless consciousness. When we are troubled, hurt and aggrieved, we should easily see that we have been clinging and holding on, either to an ideal about our ego, or an ideal about how the world should be.

[Cahoot]

Considering that duplication is an ideal by which accuracy of reproduction is assessed, digital photos can sure fool you. However, A=A.

Meaning that although this instant is perpetually vanishing the memory persists as an imprint on the soul of humanity, and just as we carry the memories of a child long gone, this memory also exists in the three times.

[Patrick Watts]

Considering that duplication is an ideal by which accuracy of reproduction is assessed, digital photos can sure fool you. However, A=A.

Copies can certainly be made, and language can be reproduced - at least in matters of appearance, manifestation. Reproduction exists as an appearance, clearly. But consciousness is not language, it's not words, or even abstract memories. Consciousness, or spirit, is the relation between awareness and the idea. The idea can be reproduced, at least the appearance of reproduction exists. Pure awareness, or spirit, is something that exist first and at once. Jesus was referring to this when he said: "before Abraham, I am!". What he means is that he is not some mere variation or result of Abraham, he is not merely an inheritance, or the result of prior calculations. He is everything, and everything (eternity) only exists in relation to mind.

Meaning that although this instant is perpetually vanishing the memory persists as an imprint on the soul of humanity, and just as we carry the memories of a child long gone, this memory also exists in the three times.

Memory is one of those things that transforms depending on the perspective. In this way, sorrow (bad memories) can lose all their painful aspects through merely a change in perspective. The memories themselves are created in the moment, there is only the illusion of inheritance of an objective thing. There is no such thing as a memory, in an objective sense.

[Cahoot]

Memories exist. They're simply subject to the qualities and limitations of memory.

The existence of an "objective sense" is questionable.

[Patrick Watts]

Memories exist. They're simply subject to the qualities and limitations of memory.

The existence of an "objective sense" is questionable.

Memories exist insofar as they appear, but how they appear can drastically change depending on the position of consciousness. The objective-existence of a memory (perspective), without a doubt, is illusory. Memory is part of what perspective is. There is no perspective without a memory informing you that the perspective is occurring. And of course, your expectations (previous memories used to forecast) have everything to do with how the latest memory will manifest. Memories create each other in a chain. You change one, you change the others.

[Cahoot]

Yes, memories appear as the world appears.