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realization

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:38 pm
by Gurrb
i have realized many of you, like many 'common' folk in society, just recycle the views of others. the only difference is that most of you have read many books, so your views of others aren't as confined. not all of you, but many of you. this is not a genius forum. it's a 'well-read' forum.

with bruised egos come fired debates

Re: realization

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:32 pm
by Dan Rowden
Firstly, there is arguably no such thing as an original philosophical thought; nevertheless, every person must reinvent the philosophical wheel for themselves. Do you understand the meaning of this? Secondly, I see no real evidence that you actually understand what this forum is about. It's amazing how many people show up here, begin to post but never read the introduction.

Re: realization

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:55 pm
by ForbidenRea
I agree with Dan Rowdan.
First, when I came upon genius forums, it was because I had it in me. Secondly, there are no two universes. But, there are 64 trillion-million galaxies...

Re: realization

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:28 am
by ForbidenRea
A=A

Re: realization

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:37 am
by Trevor Salyzyn
There's several different ways of interpreting the title of this forum. One is by a description of posters, just as a "literati forum" would be a forum for people who've read a lot. Another would be by a description of content, just as a "literature forum" would be a forum for people who like to talk about what they've read. A third could be the goals of the forum, as a "reading forum" would be designed to help people become good readers.

This is not an exhaustive list, but a few possibilities from which you assumed the first. But you've just found, after 200-some posts, that it's not that! It's not a forum filled with people who meet your chosen criteria for genius (ie. not common folk). What seems odd, is that instead of re-evaluating your initial assumption, because it is just an assumption, you've instantly gone and judged this forum a failure.

If reading Dan's one-page introduction is too much to ask, I ask you only to consider this text that appears on every page: "Genius Forums: Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment".

Re: realization

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:27 am
by Gurrb
my point is still valid. how can one grasp reality-which is different from each individual-when they are focused on others' views? you are no closer now than you were when you started this forum. actually, i think you are further from understanding 'your' reality than you were before. it's very ironic that trevor and 'forbiden' echo your points. develop your own thoughts, unless you're just looking to suck someone off. and original thinking is not impossible, but when you're confined as you are, i believe it is. you cannot tell me you have not fallen into society's net, just as i can't. the line between fiction and reality is so blurred, almost all of us cannot tell the difference if the disguise is good enough. are you at peace? no you are not, because you display signs of arrogance in the form of condescension.

my views aren't of the many, nor are they of the 'powerful' (this is a forum on the internet after all, it's not powered, but merely perceived power), but it does not mean my views are wrong. i am not enlightened; i never will be. i cannot truly understand anything, but only believe i do. but i find it a sort of enlightenment to realize this.

Re: realization

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:30 pm
by jufa
ForbidenRea wrote:A=A
A is A how can it equal A?

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

Re: realization

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:01 pm
by Trevor Salyzyn
Gurrb wrote:how can one grasp reality-which is different from each individual-when they are focused on others' views?
In what sense is Reality different for each person?

Re: realization

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:25 pm
by jufa
Trevor Salyzyn wrote:
Gurrb wrote:how can one grasp reality-which is different from each individual-when they are focused on others' views?
In what sense is Reality different for each person?
Perceptive indoctrination.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

Re: realization

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:05 am
by ForbidenRea
jufa wrote:
ForbidenRea wrote:A=A
A is A how can it equal A?

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
Through different colorations. A=A. Doubly, zeros. If A doesn not equal A, it is thus a formality of zeros that discover A quantum A.

A concave power of equilllibrium.

Re: realization

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:14 am
by jufa
ForbidenRea wrote:
jufa wrote:
ForbidenRea wrote:A=A
A is A how can it equal A?

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
Through different colorations. A=A. Doubly, zeros. If A doesn not equal A, it is thus a formality of zeros that discover A quantum A.

A concave power of equilibrium.
Should A be able to equal A, then ForbidenRea can produce the formula which would produce ForbidenRea equaling ForbidenRea.
Looking forward to this power equilibrium from the two of you.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

Re: realization

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:51 am
by mental vagrant
There is probalistically rarely a truely 'new' idea (i'm assuming the new founded from old but only an individual holds it), I'm not a long standing member of the forum and disagree with various views held here, well read is inappropriate as you have no basis, more importantly don't know how these people came to their ideas even if many seem spurious. I'd like to know how you have racked up 200+ posts while retaining this view.

Well read or not, i think both.

Learning in multitudes.

In any case the general public is massively moronic. Understanding one concept isn't identical to another.

Whether genius has spawned or not is debateable, there might be genius within.

Re: realization

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:54 am
by mental vagrant

Re: realization

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:01 am
by Dennis Mahar
Which label labels?

In asking 'who am I',
'who are you'.

Does a label 'get it'?

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:18 am
by mental vagrant
Labels probably get it, this one does. Curious, do you have any labels for us label, or are you declaring your embosser retired?

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:44 am
by Dennis Mahar
Curious, do you have any labels for us label, or are you declaring your embosser retired?
You can't tell me where you are without assigning a label.
You can't tell me who you are without the assignation of a label.
You can't tell me when you are without assigning a label.

Uncanny.

Does a label 'get it'?

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:44 am
by mental vagrant
My world consists entirely of labels, functions of what i have been and being.

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:45 am
by mental vagrant
I must get it for we are one.

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:26 am
by ForbidenRea
jufa wrote:
ForbidenRea wrote:
jufa wrote:
ForbidenRea wrote:A=A
A is A how can it equal A?

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
Through different colorations. A=A. Doubly, zeros. If A doesn not equal A, it is thus a formality of zeros that discover A quantum A.

A concave power of equilibrium.
Should A be able to equal A, then ForbidenRea can produce the formula which would produce ForbidenRea equaling ForbidenRea.
Looking forward to this power equilibrium from the two of you.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
I quote; end quote.
It was a bitter war between me and my old compardre[whom, issued me into a forgotten creep show]. I end quote. It is better to state it, A=A. Then, to alternate the both.
An equilibrium of haitis. When, does A not equal A?
A situation came up when I was 4 yrs. of age. Undoubtedly, the war continues. Consciouly, I am aware of it! The A=A query. That doesn't mean I am not at war with A=A. It simply is a frame of thought. I am at war. I hate it but I will eventually win. As commander of my own will. I attain it. It's there...
Whom ever choses to be there. It is a simple formula. Dan Rowdan, or QRS. What formula is there? I was 4 and the void came up to me and thus was I intermediately sought out by the fuckin reality of it!

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:32 pm
by Dennis Mahar
I must get it for we are one.
Not one. Not many.

not that, not that.

All labels are relative.
There's no short except in relation to tall.

We're playing here for the happiness that isn't dependant on conditions.
free of labels.

Where am I?
Nowhere.
Who am I?
No one.
What makes me think this is me?
Nothing makes me think this.
When am I?
I’m not.
Why do I think this is me and that is not me?
I don’t think that.

The apparent I exists as labels.

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:47 pm
by ForbidenRea
O Bidden, where have you been? O
Bidden: Nowhere!
O But, of course O

The undifiable alliegiance to quantum mechanics. There are 40 billion stellispheres in our galaxy. A universal picture without any proof! The doctrines of our times. Legaity. Fortune cookies, robots, and an all-out conundrom. A heir to the throne of God. A billion stars. Searching for alamony. a Gazzillion. Fortune telling. Zapa the dragon.

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:57 pm
by ForbidenRea
Herman Hesse,

What's the point?

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:49 pm
by mental vagrant
Dennis Mahar wrote:
I must get it for we are one.
Not one. Not many.

not that, not that.

All labels are relative.
There's no short except in relation to tall.

We're playing here for the happiness that isn't dependant on conditions.
free of labels.

Where am I?
Nowhere.
Who am I?
No one.
What makes me think this is me?
Nothing makes me think this.
When am I?
I’m not.
Why do I think this is me and that is not me?
I don’t think that.

The apparent I exists as labels.
Yes. That's what i was implying.

Re: realization

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:51 pm
by Blair
ForbidenRea wrote:What's the point?
What's yours?

Re: realization

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:42 am
by mental vagrant
mental vagrant wrote:
Dennis Mahar wrote:
I must get it for we are one.
Not one. Not many.

not that, not that.

All labels are relative.
There's no short except in relation to tall.

We're playing here for the happiness that isn't dependant on conditions.
free of labels.

Where am I?
Nowhere.
Who am I?
No one.
What makes me think this is me?
Nothing makes me think this.
When am I?
I’m not.
Why do I think this is me and that is not me?
I don’t think that.

The apparent I exists as labels.
Yes. That's what i was implying.
This has scope to be very liberating within the 'right' cerebrum.