Identity: Its Application & Race

[BMcGilly07]

Racism: The most biologically motivated of all herdly social instincts, even preceding law and hierarchy. The racist is motivated by his identity, not the identity of the object of his hate. All such ignorant men who identify themselves as integrally related, or rather representative of a specific group cannot have a highly evolved or wise conception of the ‘self.’ In fact he has never thought of his true self, he is more a stranger to himself then any interloper or foreign agent from some far off land. Had he granted himself but a moment’s thought to what comprises his self he would see straight off that the “object” (however subjective it maybe given level of unconsciousness) of self-awareness is the same be it an ant crawling through the boulders of sand or for the man hiking that pimple on the Earth’s surface, Mount Everest.

Awareness is awareness, whether conscious of a self to be preserved or destroyed for the greater good, this awareness manifests as some level of consciousness which perceives and through this perception grants continuity to Ultimate Reality. The real enemy is unconsciousness, that feeble ignorance which mistakes the reflection on the still pond’s surface for the real self. This unconsciousness perceives and defends against the impermanence he grasps at all around him, and so through his limited apprehension must grant himself continuity, and does so by identifying with what is most close to him. Through circumstance and genetics it is invariable that the very genetic causes which grants brown eyes and a red beard must instill dispositions and varying degrees of innate skill and social formation, traditions, and culture from which the bearded man can no more escape from than he can change them. Because of unconsciousness leading to identifying with those most like us, out of this same weakness our ego is ugly, petty, twisted and self-aggrandizing. Each ego fortifies itself from knowing this fact through denial and noticing it to any real degree only in those with whom he has dis-identified his very self from. His personality with its genetic dispositions has arisen as the contrast of his ego contrasted against his adopted values. So the wise man appears a misogynistic lunatic and lazy bum to his same-race brothers, but because he has increased his understanding of Reality and diminished his unconsciousness his ego fades and only his seemingly misplaced values shine through.

The racist uses these circumstantial and genetic dispositions in the others’ personality. The more unconscious the individual being observed – surely the more anchored in readily observable similarities with similar people is his ego, and so his patterned foible behaviors are seen as evidence of the validity of the general stereotype. This does not negate the existence and the fact of stereotypes as representative of flaws in the race. Every social flaw can be corrected regardless of the enviro-biological racial bias. It would be an ignorant judgment of a newly met individual if based on a stereotype he was pre-judged. At base the stereotype is a meme of identity that started as an observation from an outsider and eventually was passed as a judgment and a negative expectation but evolved into a badge of honor and almost a rite of passage to identify and link the individual with the past struggle in minority populations. The stereotype of the majority is also passed as judgment from the outsider, but as the present minority identifies himself even through his own racial stereotype with the past so he wields his stereotype of the majority as a stinging reminder of his past-generation’s society’s hubris. Unlike an individual, and I suspect being so fond of partially for its similarity with Ultimate Reality, a society does not die unless all births cease. So the racist instinctively identifies with the company and society he keeps, remaining hardened and inflexible in his world view constructed around his rigid, unchanging identity.


Note: Pardon any mistakes, I wrote this quite early in the morning and will re-read and edit it as I see fit tomorrow.

[David Quinn]

It's a sign of personal insecurity, isn't it. Nothing brings people closer together than the presence of a common enemy. The racist can find security in a close-knit community by conforming to their demonizing of other individuals and communities.

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[Ryan Rudolph]

And that is a problem with still having entire nation-states made up of one isolated 'race' distinguished from the rest of the genepool. IE: China or Israel. It encourages tribalism, and the competition against other tribes. Actually, Even just the concept of the nation-state in multi-racial countries encourages this mentality, but not to the same degree.

Basically, Unconsciousness seems to be amplified in certain environments over others.

[Nick]

Basically, Unconsciousness seems to be amplified in certain environments over others.

Of course. Any individual thoughts which deviate too far from the traditional thoughts of the group and you become a sympathizer with the enemy, or the enemy itself. It's nearly impossible to become an real individual in that kind of environment, something which is necessary for truly conscious thoughts to take form.

[Ryan Rudolph]

Nick,

Of course. Any individual thoughts which deviate too far from the traditional thoughts of the group and you become a sympathizer with the enemy, or the enemy itself. It's nearly impossible to become an real individual in that kind of environment, something which is necessary for truly conscious thoughts to take form.

That reminds me of a documentary I seen where either a British or Australian reporter went into the heart of Israel's Jewish priesthood to ask some questions about how the priests felt about the Palestinian/Jewish conflict, and he had to be escorted out of the area by police because a herd of Jewish priests kept banding together violently trying to force him out of the area. They were screaming, pushing and calling him all sorts of names.

It was amazing how much they identified with the behavior of the others just because each one wore the same type of robe and believed the same bullshit. Actually, the group was fairly peaceful until one became violent, and all the others followed. I guess when faced with the choice of whether or not their friend was irrational or not, they choose to become irrational with him, rather than to turn against him, and encourage him to come to his senses.

[Foreigner]

It's a sign of personal insecurity, isn't it. Nothing brings people closer together than the presence of a common enemy.

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That very well may be, i havent taken a poll but at least running a close second in some parts is-- searching for the bodies of missing girls and young women, exclusively from white well-to-do homes.


Oh and -- yankin pets and toddlers out of deep well casing.
What in the world could possibly feel better, eh?

[Rhett]

Nick,

Of course. Any individual thoughts which deviate too far from the traditional thoughts of the group and you become a sympathizer with the enemy, or the enemy itself. It's nearly impossible to become an real individual in that kind of environment, something which is necessary for truly conscious thoughts to take form.

That reminds me of a documentary I seen where either a British or Australian reporter went into the heart of Israel's Jewish priesthood to ask some questions about how the priests felt about the Palestinian/Jewish conflict, and he had to be escorted out of the area by police because a herd of Jewish priests kept banding together violently trying to force him out of the area. They were screaming, pushing and calling him all sorts of names.

It was amazing how much they identified with the behavior of the others just because each one wore the same type of robe and believed the same bullshit. Actually, the group was fairly peaceful until one became violent, and all the others followed. I guess when faced with the choice of whether or not their friend was irrational or not, they choose to become irrational with him, rather than to turn against him, and encourage him to come to his senses.

The less developed people are the more violent and territorial they are. Also the more focused they are on the immediate environment, they know that once they move the people on, and they are out of sight and out of mind, they will be largely forgotten. They heavily control their reality to keep their mind small and their emotions from overflowing. Their mind is too crude to be able to handle much contrast.

[Rhett]

I agree that the standard racist mentality is deficient and worthy of being spoken against. But in a venue such as this a fuller discussion of racism can also be worthwhile.

One of the problems confounding those working towards the eradication of racism is that some racist remarks are actually true and important comments to be made. Wherever there is a problem there is value in pointing it out, and if that particular problem is race specific, we can't just turn out backs on it.

Another difficulty is that races often have cultural differences, and some cultures are clearly wiser than others. To what extent is a races genetics responsible for its culture? Is someone being racist if they criticise a culture that is heavily connected to a particular race?

Another problem is that i bet everyone here that speaks against racism is in fact a racist. They do not ultimately believe that all races are equal. For example, if a neanderthal was alive today, would they consider it equal to all other men? What about those that are alive today that are genetically (and particularly brain genetics) closer to a neaderthal than other men? Another example, if someone proposed to swap 200million americans with 200millions arabs, how would the remaining americans that claimed to be non-racist really think about that?

The fact is that racism has been a driving force for the replacement of less developed peoples with more developed peoples. If it wasn't for racism wisdom wouldn't have come into existence. Each race fights for its survival and territory, and unless it develops, or new land is found, humankinds development can only occur via its displacement.

I speak against the emotional content of racism, the insecurity and hatred, etc, but there can be a place for rational discussion of racial differences.