Causality revisited

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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chikoka
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Causality revisited

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Just some new thoughts from a Zimbo on a rampage ;^).

Don't want to bore anyone with causality (again). but i have a few ideas on causality to share.

If the universe is run by the forces of cause and effect then it would not have all the information it has now.
After the Big bang the universe would have been perfectly symmetric with its focal point at the initial position of the singularity.
As it cooled random quantum fluctuations would have caused asymmetry's causing the different galaxies to form.
Without these fluctuations there would have been no preffered places for galaxies to form and there would in fact have been one very large symmetric galaxy.

What we observe, rather is that the universe looks the same whichever direction you look at it .
This is what you would expect as randomness "averages things out"
Also the universe is not *exactly* the same which is what you would expect if it was truly random.

In fact the universe has a large amount of "information" in its structure , and that can only be explained by introducing concepts such as randomness.
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Re: Causality revisited

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chikoka wrote:Just some new thoughts from a Zimbo on a rampage ;^).

Don't want to bore anyone with causality (again). but i have a few ideas on causality to share.

If the universe is run by the forces of cause and effect then it would not have all the information it has now.
After the Big bang the universe would have been perfectly symmetric with its focal point at the initial position of the singularity.
As it cooled random quantum fluctuations would have caused asymmetry's causing the different galaxies to form.
Without these fluctuations there would have been no preffered places for galaxies to form and there would in fact have been one very large symmetric galaxy.

What we observe, rather is that the universe looks the same whichever direction you look at it .
This is what you would expect as randomness "averages things out"
Also the universe is not *exactly* the same which is what you would expect if it was truly random.

In fact the universe has a large amount of "information" in its structure , and that can only be explained by introducing concepts such as randomness.
Just take your idea of randomness and substitute it with the idea of inconceivable complexity and that will resolve all of this while being entirely causal. Start with the Big Bang as not being singular but part of a larger system.
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Matt Gregory wrote:Just take your idea of randomness and substitute it with the idea of inconceivable complexity
How would you define "inconceivable complexity" ?
Where would it have come from?
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Your looking at it at the wrong level .
Inconceivable complexity is called information.
My point lies below that at the where did this complexity come from level.

The only explanation i have is randomness.

If it was a law then it wouldn't look random since laws produce homogeneity by definition
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