Are any ideas innate?

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Are any ideas innate?

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I've been reading some Locke and he argues against the notion that there are innate ideas. It's easy to understand that many of our ideas are drawn from experience, but do you think there are any ideas that inherently can't be drawn from experience and could be innate?

He argues against the idea that A=A is innate. But I don't see how one could derive it from experience. We don't experience relationships, and in order to make sense of our experiences it seems that we appeal to reason, which is founded on A=A.

In one section he admits that a baby can reason before it understands the maxim/principle that something can't be and not be or A=A. Wouldn't this imply that the baby has some notion of that logical principle?
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A=A as an understanding is certainly not innate as most people don't really get it. A=A as the brute expression of identity is the basis of consciousness - I don't know if you'd call that an innate "idea" or not. I mean, it's not really an "idea"; it's more rudimentary than that. I think the idea of a "self" is innate, even if not strictly universal (there are certain mental conditions that might preclude it). The idea of a self evolves as self-awareness develops. This isn't really dependent on any particular "experience" - it only requires a world in which the entity develops an introspective capacity.
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I suppose that is one hell of a questions.

This series will allow you to follow some geniuses with some potential to develop great ideas a bit faster than your average processor.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ild+genius

Knowledge and a brain that works like a Dyson vacuum cleaner are good with ideas.
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Ideas that change the world today are obvious and yet obscured.


Safe houses are reached in new ways it seems and the bad guys shed no tears of infringement when they cannot see it coming.


http://awwar.com/Military-Weapons/Aircr ... zed-Glider

Descent is a bit slow for a species with our potential but I do like the innitiative.
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Is it the ideas or is the innate merely all we rise to when we are not the audience of advanced technology and ideas.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=1


soon we could know
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