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What do you think about future society?

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I hope this will not happened:
In the year 9595
I'm kinda wondering if man's gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing...

I think the year 2020 will be like this:
The entire world is one family. The framework of Altruistic Communism ultimately encircle the entire world in an equal standard of living to everybody. However, the actual process is a gradual one. Each nation whose majority accepts these basic elements practically, and who have already been brought up to bestow upon their fellow person and will have a sound cause for fuel, may enter the framework of the international communism right away.
All the nations that have already gone under the framework of international communism will have equal standards of living. The surplus of a wealthy or a diligent nation will improve the living standards of the failing or poor nation in raw materials and productive means.
The economic and religious form that guarantees communism will be one for all nations. It means that the religious form of all nations must first obligate its members to bestowal upon their fellow person in the form of “Love thy friend as thyself.” The aim is that the gifted and the lucky shall not enjoy society more than the backward members. This will be the collective religion for all nations that will come under the framework of the Altruistic Communism, excluding religious forms that do not concern the economic life.
On other matters of comportment, each will have his or her own form, which should not be changed. In other words: except for the matter of “Love thy friend as thyself,” each nation may follow its own religion and tradition, and one must not interfere with another.
There should be no differences between black and white, civilized and primitive, just as among individuals of the same nation. There must be no discrimination among individuals, a nation, or all the nations of the world. As long as there are differences, war will not end.
Altruistic Communism will finally annul the brute-force regime completely, for “every man did that which was right in his own eyes.” It should not surprise us, as it was unbelievable that children could be educated by explanation, but only through the cane. However, today, most people have accepted that and reduce the forceful rule on children...
All this and more else are Kabbalah's offer for a future society.
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-Bobbi Gentry writes-
BGen - I hope this will not happened:
In the year 9595
I'm kinda wondering if man's gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing...

-tomas-
The space shuttles (Space Command) will be travelling to the "nether region" retrieving that which was taken away by the kingdoms of the earth.




-Bobbi Genry-
I think the year 2020 will be like this:
The entire world is one family. The framework of Altruistic Communism ultimately encircle the entire world in an equal standard of living to everybody. However, the actual process is a gradual one. Each nation whose majority accepts these basic elements practically, and who have already been brought up to bestow upon their fellow person and will have a sound cause for fuel, may enter the framework of the international communism right away.

-tomas-
My vote is for Ryan Rudolph to oversee this worldwide project :-)




-Bobbi Gentry-
All the nations that have already gone under the framework of international communism will have equal standards of living. The surplus of a wealthy or a diligent nation will improve the living standards of the failing or poor nation in raw materials and productive means.

-tomas-
So... your scenario provides for "individual" nations to exist?




-Bobbi Gentry-
The economic and religious form that guarantees communism will be one for all nations. It means that the religious form of all nations must first obligate its members to bestowal upon their fellow person in the form of “Love thy friend as thyself.” The aim is that the gifted and the lucky shall not enjoy society more than the backward members. This will be the collective religion for all nations that will come under the framework of the Altruistic Communism, excluding religious forms that do not concern the economic life.

-tomas-
"Altruistic Communism" -- always the catch-phrase.

And the penalty for non-compliance?




-Bobbi Gentry-
On other matters of comportment, each will have his or her own form, which should not be changed. In other words: except for the matter of “Love thy friend as thyself,” each nation may follow its own religion and tradition, and one must not interfere with another.

-tomas-
How about the "Texas Situation" where children are separated from their mother without due process?




-Bobbi Gentry-
There should be no differences between black and white, civilized and primitive, just as among individuals of the same nation. There must be no discrimination among individuals, a nation, or all the nations of the world. As long as there are differences, war will not end.

-tomas-
Who will decide what territory belongs to the Aborigine of Australia?

Native american-indian claims will be resolved ... how?




-Bobbi Gentry-
Altruistic Communism will finally annul the brute-force regime completely, for “every man did that which was right in his own eyes.” It should not surprise us, as it was unbelievable that children could be educated by explanation, but only through the cane. However, today, most people have accepted that and reduce the forceful rule on children...

-tomas-
Again, tell me how you would resolve the dilemna in Texas ... Mothers yearning to have and hold their birth-children in their arms.




-Bobbi Gentry-
All this and more else are Kabbalah's offer for a future society.

-tomas-
I dunno about Kabbalah, hasn't done much for Madonna, her latest album is as creepy as the ones that came before.




-Bobbi Gentry advertises-
All the changes are only in the perceivers. B.Ashlag
http://www.kabbalah.info

-tomas-
I still think David should charge a fee (carrying charge) for hawking websites that demand compliance.




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I think it will take longer than 12 years, but assured within this century. "Altruistic communism" will not be a government policy but an individual policy; no government is needed when all are in contact with their self.
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-tomas-
Again, tell me how you would resolve the dilemna in Texas ... Mothers yearning to have and hold their birth-children in their arms.
This is a deeply disturbing story on many levels.

I think the yearning of these mothers is the least of the considerations. Their yearning does not make them suitable parents. Society is clumsily examining the history of their decision-making processes and trying to determine if in fact a suitable child-rearing environment exists at the compound.

The disturbing part is that who gives government the moral authority to do this? I have seen government beauracracy first-hand involved in providing child-care, as I once sought to gain custody of a 15-year-old street urchin who had run away from her city-mandated housing. (This was in New York.) The child-welfare system was particularly inept in letting this girl fall through the cracks. Many of the city employees were just in it for a meager paycheck and couldn't care less.

However, persistence enabled me to locate city workers, one in particular, who did care. My girlfriend at the time and I were 26. Neither of us were related to this little runaway. We weren't even related to each other. By perseverance, we were able finally to get an emergency hearing before a judge. The judge at length said, "Okay, the court is prepared to make a decision. But before I rule, I'd like to make a comment." I thought, here it comes---the lecture. She continued: "People are always saying to me that the system doesn't work. In my job, I hear it every day. And let me tell you something. All too ofetn, the system doesn't work. What people don't seem to understand is that in order for the system to work, somebody has to make it work. So I would personally like to thank you both for making the system work for you here today. The court hereby grants custody..."

I will never forget this lesson. After months of trying, we were finally able to get the poor kid out from the abandoned building she squatted in in the depths of a brutal NY winter in the worst part of the East Village and give her a home with us and feed her and care for her until the city found a suitable group home right across the street from her Manhattan high school. She went on to graduate with her class.

This story going on in Texas is disturbing, but it is not Waco. As far as I know, no one has been killed. Waco was no better than the MOVE fire-bombing in Philadelphia all those years ago. The authorities kill with impunity.

I have a well-earned distrust of authority, as I have been rousted from my car more than once because a cop didn't like my looks, because I made the egregious mistake of eyeballing him the wrong way.

But we live in a society. As the facts come out of Texas, my heart is not with the parents or the twisted cult that produced the children, but with the chidren themselves. Like it or not, we have a system that has experience in making a bad situation if not perfectly good, then at least better.

There is a reason why marriage licenses, driver's licenses, dog licenses, etc. are required.

This cult in no way engenders sympathy from me. It's revolting to what extent people abuse what they perceive to be their rights and freedoms. No amount of fucking Timothy McVeighs are going to give dignity to the asshole white trash that brainwash and take advantage of the young and vulnerable among us.
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BGen;
In the year 9595
I'm kinda wondering if man's gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing...
Well, thats sad for now, but why do you think that once sentient life takes a stronghold it necessarily needs planet earth to support it? Have you considered that we might spread across different galaxies by then?
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"Love thy friend as thyself". We can all see how such a great society as the state of Russia, with its hundreds of millions and a land exceeding that of the whole of Europe, with almost second to none possession of raw materials, has agreed to lead a communal life, and has effectively abolished private property. Each of them has no other concern but the well-being of society, and they have seemingly acquired the virtue of bestowal upon one’s fellow person in its fullest sense, as far as the human mind can reach.

However, go and see what has become of them: where they should have progressed and surpassed the capitalistic countries, they have declined ever downward. By now, they are incapable of benefiting the lives of the workers even a little more than those in the capitalistic countries. Moreover, they cannot even secure their daily bread and cover their flesh. Indeed, this is a perplexing truth, as judging by the wealth of this country and its multitude of people, one assumes it should not have come to that.

However, there is one sin this nation has committed for which the Creator will not forgive: all this precious and sublime work of bestowal upon one’s fellow person that they have begun to pursue should have been for the sake of the Creator, not for the sake of humankind. Thus, because they do it not for His name, they are denied their right to exist by nature itself.

Imagine if every person in this society would be as anxious to keep the precept of the Creator in the full measure of the words, “And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.” Imagine also how to that extent every one would be attentive and stand ready to satisfy the needs and wishes of their friends in the full measure imprinted in humans to satisfy their own desires, as it says, “Love thy friend as thyself.”

If the Creator had been the purpose of every worker in his work for the common good, and if the worker would expect to cleave to the Creator, to the origin of all the truth, goodness, pleasantness and gentleness through this work for the society, there is no doubt that in a few years they would surpass in riches all the nations of the world put together. They would be able to utilize the raw materials in their rich soil and would indeed set an example to all nations; they would be considered blessed by the Creator.

However, when the entire work in bestowal to one’s fellow person is based solely on the well-being of society, it is a rickety basis, for who and what would make one strain for the collective? It is impossible to hope that any motivating power would ever stem from a dry and lifeless principle. This is true for evolved individuals, and moreover for undeveloped people.

Thus, we are faced with the question: Where would the farmer or the worker take the motivating power to prompt him to the work, when the measure of one’s daily bread shall not increase or decrease by wasting one’s energy, and no reward and pay face one (Motivating power: a force, purpose. It is the operating force that sets any body in motion and provides it with its ration of energy for the labour as the fuel does in a machine)?

It is known to natural scientists that one will not make even the slightest movement without a motivating force, meaning without benefiting oneself somewhat. For example, when one moves his hand from the chair to the table, it is only because he thinks that by this he will have greater enjoyment leaving his hand on the table. Had he not thought so, he would leave his hand on the chair motionless for the entire duration of his life; all the more so regarding greater efforts.

If you should say that this matter can be resolved by placing supervisors over the workers, to punish the idle by taking their daily bread away, I shall then ask: “Do tell me, where would the supervisors themselves find the motivating force to work?” Standing still and watching over other people and motivating them to work is also a great exertion, perhaps more than the work itself! Thus, it seems as though one wishes to turn a machine on without fueling it.

Hence, they are naturally doomed to ruin. The laws of nature will punish them for they do not adapt themselves to keep its commandments, meaning perform these acts of bestowal upon one’s fellow person for the sake of the Creator, keep it and through it reach the purpose of creation, namely adhesion with Him.

It has been explained that this adhesion comes to the worker as an increasingly abundant pleasure, to the desired measure for ascension in the recognition of His truth. It develops on until one acquires the great adornment implied in the words, “neither hath the eye seen a God beside Thee.”

Imagine if the worker and the farmer had this goal before their eyes as they worked for the happiness of society. They would certainly not need supervisors over them, as they would have quite sufficient motivating power for great efforts, enough to raise society to sublime elation.

While it is true that understanding the matter in such a manner requires great care and reliable order, it is also plain to see that they have no right to exist from the perspective of the obstinate, uncompromising nature.

Thus, it has shown from the perspective of empiric intellect, and through the actual history unfolding before our eyes, that there is absolutely no cure for humankind except in taking upon themselves the commandment of providence, namely bestowal upon one’s fellow person in order to bring contentment to the Creator.

The above must be done in the spirit of the two verses: “Love thy friend as thyself,” the attribute of the work itself. It means that the measure of the effort to bestow upon one’s fellow person for the well-being of society must be no less than the amount imprinted in one to care for his own needs. Moreover, one should place the needs of the other before one’s own.

The second verse is “And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.” This is the purpose one must have before his eyes while labouring for his friend. It means that one operates and strains only to be liked by the Creator, as it says, and they do His will.

“If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land,” for the poor shall cease to be, and every tortured and exploited shall no more be in the land; the joy of every person shall rise ever upward beyond measure and degree.

However, while you still refuse and wish not to come within the covenant of the work of the Creator in the fullest measure, as explained, then nature and its laws stand ready to take vengeance. It will not let go of us, as we have evidently shown, until it defeats us and we accept its rule in whatever it tells us.
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brokenhead wrote:
-tomas-
Again, tell me how you would resolve the dilemna in Texas ... Mothers yearning to have and hold their birth-children in their arms.
This is a deeply disturbing story on many levels.

I think the yearning of these mothers is the least of the considerations. Their yearning does not make them suitable parents. Society is clumsily examining the history of their decision-making processes and trying to determine if in fact a suitable child-rearing environment exists at the compound.

The disturbing part is that who gives government the moral authority to do this? I have seen government beauracracy first-hand involved in providing child-care, as I once sought to gain custody of a 15-year-old street urchin who had run away from her city-mandated housing. (This was in New York.) The child-welfare system was particularly inept in letting this girl fall through the cracks. Many of the city employees were just in it for a meager paycheck and couldn't care less.

However, persistence enabled me to locate city workers, one in particular, who did care. My girlfriend at the time and I were 26. Neither of us were related to this little runaway. We weren't even related to each other. By perseverance, we were able finally to get an emergency hearing before a judge. The judge at length said, "Okay, the court is prepared to make a decision. But before I rule, I'd like to make a comment." I thought, here it comes---the lecture. She continued: "People are always saying to me that the system doesn't work. In my job, I hear it every day. And let me tell you something. All too ofetn, the system doesn't work. What people don't seem to understand is that in order for the system to work, somebody has to make it work. So I would personally like to thank you both for making the system work for you here today. The court hereby grants custody..."

I will never forget this lesson. After months of trying, we were finally able to get the poor kid out from the abandoned building she squatted in in the depths of a brutal NY winter in the worst part of the East Village and give her a home with us and feed her and care for her until the city found a suitable group home right across the street from her Manhattan high school. She went on to graduate with her class.

This story going on in Texas is disturbing, but it is not Waco. As far as I know, no one has been killed. Waco was no better than the MOVE fire-bombing in Philadelphia all those years ago. The authorities kill with impunity.

I have a well-earned distrust of authority, as I have been rousted from my car more than once because a cop didn't like my looks, because I made the egregious mistake of eyeballing him the wrong way.

But we live in a society. As the facts come out of Texas, my heart is not with the parents or the twisted cult that produced the children, but with the chidren themselves. Like it or not, we have a system that has experience in making a bad situation if not perfectly good, then at least better.

There is a reason why marriage licenses, driver's licenses, dog licenses, etc. are required.

This cult in no way engenders sympathy from me. It's revolting to what extent people abuse what they perceive to be their rights and freedoms. No amount of fucking Timothy McVeighs are going to give dignity to the asshole white trash that brainwash and take advantage of the young and vulnerable among us.
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Fucming doucherat shitsucking piece of crap scumsucking dirtwad

That's what I think of you, let alone future societtea.

Crapweasel asssucking urine licking pisstoaqd.

How do I ghet banned fr0m this chicken shit outfit, Hudson said.

We are all dead by 2032.

Kiss my ass you stupid cunt. Fuck you in your stupid ass, you stupid as stupid ass.
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Out of respect for you, Blair, I'm trying to see the value of this kind of posting. But I can't quite see it...

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Out of respect for you, David, I'll take that as a joke.

Because that's what it is, a joke.

A=A, get it?

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