You asked easy questions that I already knew the answers to. How long do you need to reflect before answering what 2 + 2 equals?Pye wrote::) . . . so maybe some reflection then before reaction.
It is also part of the goal here to eliminate the ego. Mine was gone by the end of 8th grade. If you insist there is a phenomenal self and I am aware that I do not have one, the burden of proof is on you, as a negative can not be proven. You say you can not find one in me despite my 1200+ posts here and who knows what you have read of me elsewhere. It isn't there. If you say it is, then where Pye, where?Pye wrote:There is exactly a phenomenal self. There is simply no in-itself quality to it (noumenal). People here use the words inherent and non-inherent to express this. And jumping over this to obliterate it linguistically is not dealing with it.
Just because I have not been on GF since its inception does not mean that I have not thought at all before coming here. None of the QRS needed GF to prompt their philosophy, why do you assume that no one but them could possibly have thought on their own? You are a follower Pye, not an independant. Although you are intelligent and insightful, you still project some of yourself onto others. Just because you are a perpetual student of self-ordained teachers does not mean that everyone who perpetually learns is someone who devotes themselves to particular teachers.Pye wrote:Elizabeth, in my estimation, you have assumed far too much and assumed yourself far too far-along in it. Perhaps your IQ, degrees, accolades, etc. assist you in this. You have entered, and not done the work of going backwards to the beginning: perhaps you have assumed your intellectual credentials earn you a seat ahead of everyone else. This assumption is exactly what will keep you behind.
Perhaps you consider yourself a disciple of the QRS as a number of others here do. That is a sad concept. This is a mesage board, and the administrators of this board have the noble concept of prompting others to think and hammeriing out better thinking from those who already think.Pye wrote:Otherwise, you have adapted to the lessons and lingo of the site and not done the actual, the painful work of it. Someday maybe.
You assume that if someone has not done painful work under the guidance of your teachers that a person could not possibly have done any work of value at all. You are not exactly self centered, but you have appointed yourself as best judge of all teachers and have decided to make the QRS the center of your spiritual universe (and think that everyone else here should too) - and that isn't even what your teachers are trying to teach you to do - they are trying to teach you to think for yourself.
Pye, just because it is in your nature to be submissive does not mean that everyone should be submissive to those you personally have chosen to be submissive to. If you want to bow or curtsey to the QRS, that's your business - although I think it would make them feel silly in person.
