R. Steven Coyle wrote:
I also share suergaz's desire for "relationship building" [as perilous and impermanent as Nature itself] - so I think I'll throw in my pocket book.
Steven, are you saying that you were only attracted to this forum because you thought you might make new friends here? I reckon there might be more to you than just
that. You must have had a look at the intro to this forum and decided that you were interested in discussing the issues mentioned, so there was/is something inside you that steers you towards philosophy. So, maybe you can hold on a bit longer and see which way your mind takes you.
Your philosophy is modeled after David Quinn's, right?
Being that there is only one Truth, my philosophy is inevitably the same as David’s.
Have you given any thought to the idea of sage as unifier? Bringing harmony to their environment, as a result of their high consciousness?
Yes, that is the aim of this forum, to unite people with the Truth. A natural consequence of this is a more rational, harmonious environment.
Do you think that the westernized philosopher's are the only one's worthy of merit? Kierkegaard was correct when he observed that the philosopher will grow to love God more than man. But, what about the Taoist masters? Lao Tzu? Confucius? What about Buddha? And Jesus? Who all philosophized that God is in everything, and that helping others is the path to true liberation.
Truth is the same for all that know it. And those who know it are all the same. Out of the guys you mentioned, Kierkegaard, Jesus, Buddha, and Lao Tzu stand out as wise men, because they all spoke about the one Truth.
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God cannot be an object of study, since God is subject.
For this very reason, when you deny God, you do not harm God but destroy yourself.
When you mock God, you mock yourself.
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Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
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And as all things originate from one essence,
so they are developing according to one law
and they are destined to one aim which is Nirvana.
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The Way is without form or quality,
But expresses all forms and qualities;
The Way is hidden and implicate,
But expresses all of nature;
The Way is unchanging,
But expresses all motion.
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So you are correct that they all spoke of
God as Everything, but I know that not one of them cared one way or another if what they said influenced people to become wise. They were more interested in putting the Truth out there so that those who had the potential to understand and accept the Truth could do so. Truth is what they valued, not humanity.
Understanding that
Everything is God means you know that you are in no way separated from God, and neither is anyone else. So, you can’t really help, or take pride in, or feel happy about someone becoming wise, because it is all God’s doing. All you can do is God’s work. And that’s what those four were doing when they wrote those words. As Lao Tzu wrote:
Nature is not kind;
It treats all things impartially.
The Sage is not kind,
And treats all people impartially.
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This speaks more of my attachment to the ignorance of others
Perhaps you just need to work out what you really want.
Sue
