ENLIGHTENMENT???

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
sschaula
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Post by sschaula »

Sjorssnors,

Putting quotation marks on a word generally doesn't change its meaning. Take this sentence for instance...

Bob went to the store.

It's easily understandable without quotes.

Because of your disorder, you assume that certain words are harder to understand so in order to better communicate your thoughts, you use the quotes.

A good time to use quotes is if you're trying to communicate that the word quoted isn't actually real, such as...

Bob went to 'the store'. He was doing shopping online.

But in your case, you're quoting too many words. It could get to the point where you're doing this....

'Bob' 'went' to 'the store'. 'He' 'was' 'doing' 'shopping' 'online'.

This isn't just hard to read, but it doesn't make sense to anyone but yourself why you're quoting all of these words. That's all hidden from the view of the reader, so really, you're making the communication worse by this.

And the purpose of doing it was to communicate better!

Try not using any quotes at all and just fully explaining what you mean. This may take a lot of space, but it can work better for people understanding your thoughts. Here's an example of this...

There was a man named Bob who needed to buy a present for his daughter. Bob went to the store. When you read the store, you may think of a physical location, but he was at his home. He was doing shopping online. You can buy things from your computer and have them shipped to your house...(I could continue on going into more detail for the imagined layman reader)

Now this can work to destroy any questions that may come to the potential reader's mind, but it's really a lot of stuff to read. Who wants to read through all of that crap just to understand the point? I know I don't. But it is necessary to get rid of the misunderstanding in the reader's mind.

Here is what I think the best option is:

Try to summarize the thoughts into one contained statement. Try to simplify it. Details, details, details are too confusing for people. People are too lazy to unravel the wound up sentences, and would prefer something that can be understood at face value. Your thoughts may be coming from a deep place in your mind, but it can always be put in simple terms, then expounded on later.

So here is an example of the ideal...

Bob was shopping online.

Then if someone doesn't understand, they'll ask. "What is online?" "Who is Bob?" "When was he shopping?" "What is shopping?" Etc...
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Post by Sjorssnors »

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_S ... uliarities )

Speech and language peculiarities

People with AS typically have a highly pedantic way of speaking, using a far more formal register of language than appropriate for a context. A five-year-old child with this condition may regularly speak in language that could easily have come from a university textbook, especially concerning his or her special area of interest.[26]

Literal interpretation is another common, but not universal hallmark of this condition. Attwood gives the example of a girl with AS who answered the telephone one day and was asked, "Is Paul there?" Although the Paul in question was in the house, he was not in the room with her, so after looking around to ascertain this, she simply said "no" and hung up. The person on the other end had to call back and explain to her that he meant for her to find him and get him to pick up the telephone.[27]

People with AS sometimes use words idiosyncratically, including new coinages and unusual juxtapositions. This can develop into a rare gift for humor (especially puns, wordplay, doggerel and satire). A potential source of humor is the eventual realization that their literal interpretations can be used to amuse others. Some are so proficient at written language as to qualify as hyperlexic. Tony Attwood refers to a particular child's skill at inventing expressions, e.g., "tidying down" (the opposite of tidying up) or "broken" (when referring to a baby brother who cannot walk or talk).[28]

Some other typical behavioral characteristics are echolalia which causes the person to repeat words or parts of words like an echo, and palilalia, the repetition of one's own words.[29] Children with AS may show advanced abilities for their age in language, reading, mathematics, spatial skills, or music, sometimes into the 'gifted' range; although, these talents may be counterbalanced by appreciable delays in the developmental of other cognitive functions.[25]

Writing peculiarities

Further information: Dysgraphia
A 2003 study investigated the written language of children and youth with AS. They were compared in a standardized test of written language skills and legibility of handwriting. In written language skills, no significant differences were found between standardized scores of both groups; however, in hand-writing skills, the AS participants produced significantly fewer legible letters and words than the neurotypical group. Another analysis of written samples found that people with AS appear to be able to write quantitatively similar to their neurotypical peers using grammatical rules, but have difficulty in producing qualitative writing.[30]

Tony Attwood states that a teacher may spend considerable time interpreting and correcting an AS child's indecipherable scrawl. The child is also aware of the poor quality of his or her handwriting and may be reluctant to engage in activities that involve extensive writing. Unfortunately for some children and adults, high school teachers and prospective employers may consider the neatness of handwriting as a measure of intelligence and personality. The child may require assessment by an occupational therapist and remedial exercises, but modern technology can help minimize this problem. A parent or teacher aide could also act as the child's scribe or proofreader to ensure the legibility of the child's written answers or homework.[31]
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Leyla Shen
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Post by Leyla Shen »

hi leyla,

what if events are fore-tellable ?do things inherently exist then?
Hello, bert:

How can they since they necessarily require conditions of existence in a past, present and thereby estimated (to whatever degree of accuracy) conditions in a fore-tellable future all dependent upon recognition of causality?

Or, are you referring to something on the order of psychic ability and, in the absence of known/identified causes for such phenomena, concluding that such a thing would not be caused (dependent upon other things)?

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