Re: I have Realized the Infinite
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:54 pm
Nick,
I don't see what I've been doing as "making absolute statements" though: from my perspective I've simply been stating confident opinions.Nick Treklis wrote:You just don't understand the nature of the absolute, and because of this you make absolute statements without realizing they are absolutely false.
A core claim of the house philosophy (and of David's book) is that absolute truth can be attained intellectually through pure logic. It follows that if you understand the logic, then you understand the absolute truth: you approach the absolute truth to the extent that you understand the logic. I've seen all of the logic here over and over: what makes you think that I don't understand it? I wonder whether you even acknowledge the difference between misunderstanding and disagreement in this context. I suspect not: I suspect that you are simply absolutely convinced of the absolute correctness of your absolute truths.Nick Treklis wrote:David's book is a tool which can ready and prepare one's mind to understand how absolutes work and indeed discover what is absolutely true. Misconstruing this as approaching absolute truth in the sense that you mean it is another example of why you don't understand the nature of absolutes.
Better at forming a perspective on reality. I think that at the most abstract level you and I do share values: at that level, we both value understanding, and living life in accordance with our understanding (you would probably prefer to replace "understanding" with "truth" or even "Truth"). The difference is in our actual understandings, and how to live in accordance with those understandings. You inspired me to explore this in depth in a new thread that I've just started: Arbitrary absolutism: the values of the house philosophy. It's more strictly an exploration of the difference between my values and those of the house philosophy, but as far as I can tell, you mostly agree with the house philosophy, so to at least a large extent it seems to apply to you. I hope it answers your question: "better at what?" By the way, none of what I wrote in that post is intended to be "absolute". It's just my opinion.Nick Treklis wrote:Better at what being the question. Obviously we don't share the same values, so why does it matter if you think I can do better at something you value?
Which is what I said, just less evocatively. If you read the post I linked to, you might see why I don't take your claim at all seriously.guest_of_logic: I know, though, that you don't want to hear it from me. After all, you're a conqueror holding the Holy Grail, and I'm just a grubby wretch who hasn't even begun the search.
Nick: I'm just a man who knows the truth, and you're not.