smarmadhi wrote:Carl: You are referring to "don't worry..." which is what you said, not Maestro. Strawman tactic. In fact Maestro's suggestion was to be used specifically when things were not fine, hence the "when you feel any of these two [negative imagination or negative emotion]..."
Like I said, relax your facial muscles, everything's fine, even if it's not. A bromide.
A bromide? No, a strawman, on your part.
Your "Like I said..." says it all.
You said, not Maestro. Maestro is talking about something else.
Puh-leeze, that's dishonest. I have nothing against you making it Maestro's problem if you want to. Just don't claim that's what he's saying.
smarm: I am talking about offering "don't worry, be happy" as an end of suffering. At least Peale wasn't that naive.
Carl: No, but it appear you may be, from the faulty analysis and jump to conclusion, on your part.
smarm: You want to gloss over the implications.
No, I wish to study the implications.
I choose to deal with them directly.
No, from what I can see you tend to twist them into other things.
Sorry if that upsets you.
I don't believe you are sorry, I think you are smarmy. And in a fantasy world.
And, why should I be upset about that? A little sad, perhaps.
brokenhead: maestro didn't say it was a panacea, Sam.
smarm: The topic heading says otherwise.
Carl: Wrong, Sam. The topic heading says nothing. It asks a question.
smarm: And supplies the answer.
No, the topic heading simply asks a question.
smarm: If it's just positive thinking, like I said, Norman Vincent Peale along with a few hundred others, beat him to it. Why push positive thinking as the end of suffering? Do you really think that ending suffering comes down to positive thinking?
Carl: Now you are flirting with blockheadedness. Again, doing something proactive is not the same as mere positive thinking.
smarm: Right. Control your facial expression, end suffering. How could I have missed it?
No one said "facial expression." I'm noticing you are really resistant to comprehension. And genuinely hostile, as well. Quite negative despite all the lol's.