Emotional Fixation

[nitty-gritty]

Is emotion truly escapable? If it was, would you want to?

[Carl G]

Would you? Why?

[Trevor Salyzyn]

Without attachments, emotions cannot arise.

[Carl G]

Trevor arises to the occasion.

[Imadrongo]

Without attachments, emotions cannot arise.

Would "truth", "wisdom", "masculinity", "genius", "enlightenment", etc count as attachments?

[nitty-gritty]

So the question is: Can we be rid of all attachments?

[maestro]

Is emotion truly escapable? If it was, would you want to?

A lobotomy would be a good way of removing most emotions.

[nitty-gritty]

Really, how so?

Is it possible without damaging the brain?

[Trevor Salyzyn]

Carl: Meh, I didn't feel like typing out an example.

Neil: If a person was attached to these concepts, certainly. In the case of the concepts you presented, attacking them is necessary to understanding them. Someone who is obsessed with being a genius, for instance, has an attachment that prevents him from having genius.

[Trevor Salyzyn]

nitty-gritty:

Can we be rid of all attachments?

One of my sister's friends has been superstitious about the number 23 since well before the movie "23" was released. On the other hand, I am not attached to any numerological conclusions, so I do not get chills when certain numbers appear before me.

If you can think of any attachment that it is impossible to be rid of, then it is impossible to be rid of all attachments.

[maestro]

Really, how so?

Is it possible without damaging the brain?

Well you can remove the amygdala it considered to be the seat of the emotions
See this link
http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/library ... chemes.htm

[Carl G]

Trevor, I wasn't being sarcastic. You gave him more than I did.

[Jamesh]

Without attachments, emotions cannot arise.

Well actually this is rubbish, it is actually "without emotions, attachments cannot arise", whether to truth/logic/rationality or otherwise.

It is not humanly possible to be without attachments, but one may limit such attachments to those relating to the more subtle emotions. No truth has any meaning whatsoever, except in relation to one's emotions.

[Trevor Salyzyn]

James: Attachments manifest themselves through emotions, and in no other way. As well, an emotion is always evidence of an attachment, and nothing else. I only put one before the other because of the way the question had been asked; I don't see any reason to argue whether the chicken or egg comes first. Although there is a difference, I'm not bored enough to pick at the difference between the appearance and the being-of-the-appearance.

[maestro]

No truth has any meaning whatsoever, except in relation to one's emotions.

Geez James, where is the emotion in the truth of the Pythagoras's theorem.

[nitty-gritty]

Emotions are biological.

It's impossible to get rid of all emotions, therefore it's impossible to get rid of all attachments - Is this statement correct?

[Carl G]

maestro, James is an old sourpuss who sucks lemons while he composes his posts. Just know that and it won't bother you what he says.

[Carl G]

nitty-gritty,

It may be possible to chooses one's attitudes, which is the first step in controlling emotions. But bottom line, there's no real reason to think in terms of deleting all attachments or emotions.

[David Quinn]

Unless you value sanity, of course.

But who would be insane enough to do that?

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[Carl G]

Er, David's right, nitty, if you are insane enough to value sanity you may have real reason to think in terms of deleting all attachments and emotions.

Then if you can save enough money for a black market frontal lobotomy your dreams may come true.

[nitty-gritty]

David Quinn, will you please stop playing mind games!

(That's right, I've got an inside source - A bot-rogue, if you will, hehe.)

Btw, regards Carl - what do you mean by choose emotions?

[David Quinn]

Emotions are biological.

It's impossible to get rid of all emotions, therefore it's impossible to get rid of all attachments - Is this statement correct?

Emotions are a complex phenomena that need many things to fall into place before they can arise. Aside from their chemical and biological origins, they also need perceptual triggers to bring them into being. For example, a person needs to perceive a fearful situation, either consciously or subconsciously, before the emotion of fear can arise. Without this perception, the whole process doesn't get off the ground in the first place.

It is at this particular weak link in the chain that we can make an impact, through discarding the deluded belief in the self. Heaven is indeed possible.

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[Carl G]

Btw, regards Carl - what do you mean by choose emotions?

Choose a positive or negative emotion in a given circumstance, via attitude.

[nitty-gritty]

So much nonsense...

[David Quinn]

Btw, regards Carl - what do you mean by choose emotions?

Choose a positive or negative emotion in a given circumstance, via attitude.

What do you think of the idea, as discussed on the latest Reasoning Show, of having a microchip inserted into your brain which would enable you to experience any emotion at will, regardless of context. Would you find that appealing?

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