Elizabeth,
I wrote:
What does David have to do with my comment? It was directed at YOU.
Elizabeth replied:
I was explaining that just because David made a similar comment does not mean that it is a correct comment. Here, look at the whole comment I made to you again, and maybe you will see:
David Quinn wrote:
I also think that Elizabeth should write less and reflect more inwardly about the subject-matter at hand before attempting to write about it. I don't like the way she uses her posts to do her thinking for her.
Unlike some people here, I don't stalk the members of this forum. I barely even read anyone else's posts here. I'm going to school full time, writing a lot of music, trying to work on various projects like building a recording studio, dealing with real life people, driving 4 hours to the guard one weekend a month, cooking for myself, cleaning my place, and trying to fit in work outs. I'm kind of busy.
I didn't see David's post. Funny though that both of us said the same thing about you without collaborating. Either we're both wrong, or...
I do not believe that my posts are thinking for me - at least not more than anybody else's. We do post here to bounce our thoughts off of each other, but that is hardly letting our posts do our thinking for us.
It seems like you haven't thought about anything, but you just like discussing it anyway. It's all good...there's nothing wrong with doing that. For a woman you're one of the more rational ones here, in my opinion...the way you "act" is better. So don't think I'm just ripping on you.
You, Scott, more accuratly reflect either what is on your mind or what you think is on your mind. I am suspecting you of not knowing what you are talking about, but giving you an opportunity to explain yourself before I reach the conclusion that you made your accusation against me without concious consideration.
Why would I need to explain myself to you? Proving that my thinking has been conscious to someone whose thinking hasn't been conscious? It doesn't make much sense.
It's so weird how you (the unconscious) turns the accusations around onto the accuser. You suspect ME of not knowing what I'm talking about? Haha!
Well my response is: do I seem to get a fuck?
Here's another level that I am applying to my understanding of you and your meaning in this instance: I gather that you are in the military. The military has the benefit of centuries of research and practice in programing young people to automatically (read - unconciously) recognize and defer to authority figures, whether the authority figures are right or wrong.
Do I really come off as the type to follow the rules, and succumb to authority figures?
Do you really think 2 months of basic training can successfully program someone that way? Especially when the authority figures come in all different shapes and sizes.
Have you ever met anyone in the military? Did they seem like little bitches to you? I suspect that the general public is more programmed to follow orders than a member of the military.
Anyway...think what you will. Or don't think. It has no effect on who I am.
I've seen that in myself (although I was never in the military, my father was a retired Lt. Col. from before I was born, yet his favorite job in his military career was when he was a sgt. and "bustin' privates." It is said that the military breaks you down then builds you up - they sent people to my father to break them down, and to someone else to build them up). It took me over 10 years of concious effort to reach a reasonable degree of recognition of when I am inappropriatly rank-concious, compartmentalize what, where, when, how, why, and if to defer, and to place principles above the potentially flawed influence of people.
Yes, it's a stupid way to live. It's the biggest reason why I regret joining...the whole attitude that military people tend to have.
It's only unconscious if the person doesn't take the time to analyze it.
I don't know if it is possible or practical for you to eliminate that in yourself at this point - at least as a reactionary response - but it might be good to consider a second thought for everything that you have a reactionary thought to. Your second thought may be the same as your first, but building a secondary thought routine to supplement your military program may be helpful to you. Full birds and generals think, so it might not be counterproductive to your career to build a second-thought validity check into your thought process.
Funny how you think I just post things without thinking about the repercussions. I have fifth thoughts, and third guesses. Yes I say what's on my mind, but it's not spurting out of me thoughtlessly.
Funny how the unconscious always tend to turn the whole thing around on the accusers. Why don't you just question if what David and I have said is actually true, instead of pleading with us that it's not? Instead of pointing fingers elsewhere?
I didn't think you would respond this way. I thought you were smarter than this, E.