Russell - I am amazed that you need this but here it is:Russell wrote:We have been sharing insights the whole time, in this thread and the others. It's strange that you propose that we must not have anything to offer, unless you mean by your terms only.
It remains that this thread has a dirty feeling to it, and your agenda seems questionable at best.
It's actually looking more and more like you don't have anything to offer.
As you go into yourself on ANY spiritual path certain things happen. They are not always the same but they are always there. All I am asking is what happened to you! as you went down this path.
If you never went down the path there is no need to contribute. This stuff is not for everyone.
Now as I stated there are many things that can happen but some I have experienced have been:
-Fundamental changes in attitude and outlook.
-Approaches to others.
-Visions that offer a vastly different view of the world.
-Understandings that you held dear of yourself falling away and being replaced with more fundamental and stronger ones.
- A different way of dealing with anger and love.
- Prajna arising in you without you looking for it.
- An inability to discriminate.
- A view of the interconnectedness of everything.
- The rise and fall of life on the planet as a holistic entity.
There are a thousand other things that can surprise sometimes. See a conversation between Cahoot and myself regarding a change he experienced following meditation. His physical eyesight changed for a while.
I agree this thread has become dirty but ask yourself 'who is responsible?'.
The question was simple, all you and DvR had to do was ignore it if you had nothing to offer - but no, you wanted to dismantle it and question its fundamental state. It's what you two enjoy. I find that you and DvR are both very adept at criticising and taking things to pieces. Neither of you seem to be able to create or build anything by using your imaginations or your experiences.
You should stick to what you know.