GENIUS FORUMS

The issue here is not who, but what. What's the difference? We can't have who without what nor what without who. How can you know what what is if you don't know what who is? If I am I because you are you, and you are you because I am I, then I am not I and you are not you. So who is asking the ques...

'relative' or relation i.e. causality. You are trying to understand existence via causality which is a rational thing to do. I think I was mainly challenging the existence of 'existence in an abstract sense'. It seems in order to exist, existence would need to be relative to some medium of existenc...

Distinction of, and between, and beyond the perimeter ones inner subjective feeling and outer objective vision is always the thrust of questions. What's the distinction between feeling and vision? I have a feeling that you have a vision in mind ;) Should it be true a tree is a concept, as is consci...

I am SELF. I am not a concept to me. Your brain can only harbor concepts (conceptualizations), so you are your concept of yourself. You are also other people's concept of you. As soon as you try to think about it some other way, you're reconceptualizing. There was a young man who said though it see...

Pam Seeback wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:31 am Since the nature of existence is ultimately a mystery to the self

A self cannot look at itself ;) To me, that is why fundamental reality can never be known... we can't look at the center of ourselves. We can look at aspects of our self, but not the fundamental.

Hi Serendipper!!! :D This is a question I ran into on another forum, and the question was jumped over by most of the participants who were asked, and those who did answer were similar to yours. As you will note the question ask: "What is the difference between evolving and expanding consciousn...

Should it be without contradiction thus with absoluteness, what is the medium for your existence before your birth? Who is asking the question and to whom is it being asked? Answer that and you'll have your answer. Surely logic and reasoning comes to one to answer this question when they step to th...

Is existence the only category by which one comes to an understanding of a thing? What about the view that existence is relative? For instance, this text exists relative to the digital universe. Speaking of existence abstractly doesn't seem to have much meaning given that we're always left with the...

Very thought provoking conversation. Hi jufa! What is the difference between evolving and expanding consciousness? Trees expand into the atmosphere and into the ground by growing over time, which, I suppose, can be a type of evolution since some branches die and others survive. (I think it's the sa...

What is the wisdom of the emptiness? This forum deals with wisdom of ultimate reality, the concept 'emptiness' is a Buddhist term that suggests the ultimate (absolute knowledge) of the nature of things. If you are interested in pursuing the concept, it is also known as "Sunyata". Oh I get...

There is no way to escape the self because every thought pattern that arises is the self, a thought pattern that is only truly meaningful to the 'individual' in the moment of its arousal. I'm glad you said "if being mindless in meditation is being one with the universe" because for the on...

Hi Serendipper: Hello :) I think this thread is one of the most valuable on the forum because we can really get to the nuts and bolts of what we are, but be careful what you say because 'they' might be reading ;) To me this thread is valuable because it opened up the underbelly of enlightenment in ...

I wasn't questioning the idea that self arises simultaneously with the concept of other, yes, Serendipper is right on target, I was pointing out that that the 'other' didn't have to be conscious. He may not have meant to exclude unconscious 'others', but just in case...:-) Actually, I think I did :...

I don't know when David wrote these comments, but I may as well respond to them now: Hi Kevin! I was merely keeping notes as I read the thread, so the comments came from here and there throughout. I read yours and David's posts in one sitting (omitting everyone else due to time and mental fatigue)....

So a fire is started and then needs to be put out, by the same person! It's madness! The definition of ignorance in action. Perhaps it was a conflict in search for a man to have it? Out-of-whack Trump hatred projected on general disappointment in parents -- even spiritual parentage? Trump has been ...

The 'self' is made up of poetic or reasoned memories projected as 'other' and if these two ways of thinking are not clearly distinguished as being very different causalities they can become a congealed stew of a mixture of both. I am not saying that this is what is happening in this thread, only th...

I wasn't questioning the idea that self arises simultaneously with the concept of other, yes, Serendipper is right on target, I was pointing out that that the 'other' didn't have to be conscious. He may not have meant to exclude unconscious 'others', but just in case...:-) Actually, I think I did :...

Serendipper: The concept of self arises simultaneously with the concept of other. "Hey, you seem to be conscious, hmm... maybe I am conscious too!" Without the observation of the consciousness of others, we will simply persist in the oceanic feeling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_...

Yes, I've learned the hard way that entering into discussion entailing terms like "perception, awareness, consciousness" is an exercise in futility since each person has their own image of what every word means and their subjective meanings are so obscure that one can squirm out of conced...

Good to see you Diebert! This bantering is fun to the mental like ping pong to the martial :) Keats was no philosopher but a Romantic poet of course. Basically believing "what imagination seizes as Beauty must be truth". To me that would say the sensitive soul had no stomach for anything p...

I have been watching modern tv and with these new slowmo HD cameras I have been seeing drag race cars on TV, bend and flex. I began thinking about a simulation called "Rigs and Rods" and I said to myself, do metals behave as chains of rods? I said no, thinking back on Archer's Paradox, I ...

If it is true that thinking a certain way requires contrast to what is perceived as being less evolved, It's not outright obvious to me why it's necessary that the contrast be to that which is less-evolved. All that seems required is a contrast, regardless of evolution. then those who are self-cons...

Is existence the only category by which one comes to an understanding of a thing? What about the view that existence is relative? For instance, this text exists relative to the digital universe. Speaking of existence abstractly doesn't seem to have much meaning given that we're always left with the...

I don't understand why true opposites cannot exist. Would you elaborate? All knowledge is either empirical or absolute. The only knowledge that can show true opposition is absolute. Empirical knowledge, by its very nature, does not have a logical opposite. If you think that the only knowledge that ...

So, the endgame - enlightenment? To what end - so that we can become ultra aware of the entropy / heat death of the universe. Is that all there is? From what I can tell from listening to others is that enlightenment ultimately becomes boring and you'll return to where you began... only with differe...