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by Serendipper
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:22 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

So it's like + and - where one is merely the lack of the other? Correct. On is lack of off and off is lack of on. True is lack of false and false is lack of true. Etc. The second assertion is false, since false things are unreal to begin with. But you said "so x's existence is nothing more tha...
by Serendipper
Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:38 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 18
Views: 22718

Re: That which is causelessly here

Hi Serendipper, I am very much enjoying our conversation! Yes, this is fun and I look forward to your comments! Unless I am misunderstanding your position, it sounds like your stand on truth is that you and I are (only) empirical lens’ for the conscious universe. It appears a high-fidelity transmis...
by Serendipper
Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:48 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

Nothing really exists or ceases to exist (or both, or neither) in itself. You're correct that nothing can both exist and not exist at an exact time and place, but that is a logical deduction and thus cannot be explained, demonstrated, imagined etc any further without repeating oneself. It is also a...
by Serendipper
Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:42 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 18
Views: 22718

Re: That which is causelessly here

Serendipper to Diebert: I'm just interested in reality, truth, whatever that is. It seems to me that philosophy is how one chooses to see things, and in order to practice science, one needs a philosophy of science to guide the practice of science. I mean, one could have a philosophy for brushing th...
by Serendipper
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 18
Views: 22718

Re: That which is causelessly here

It seems to me that the notion of predictability and the notion of determination are just two different things altogether. Yes, I think so. Note however that distributions of probability are in fact being determined all the time. I'm inclined to agree in order to prevent having uncaused events. But...
by Serendipper
Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:05 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 18
Views: 22718

Re: That which is causelessly here

Are you sure randomness is a determining force? Probability and randomness are still descriptions of various processes which would have causes. I definitely see what you're saying and I knew before that everything needs a cause, but I realized randomness is necessitated as well, so my first inclina...
by Serendipper
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

If you have ever read a scientific article, you will notice that at the beginning they will have something called an 'abstract'. Essentially what is meant by the word 'abstract' in this case and in normal conversation is an idea which gives a general understanding of what one wants to communicate. ...
by Serendipper
Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 18
Views: 22718

Re: That which is causelessly here

In the end there is not much difference between invoking a mysterious observation of randomness, hidden variables or "one deterministic process" -- at least philosophically. It ends up as some determining force as of yet not to be determined by any human mind, scientist or measurement. Ar...
by Serendipper
Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 18
Views: 22718

Re: That which is causelessly here

Hi Serendipper. Thanks for responding. ☺ No trouble. I'm trying to figure it out too, so this topic aligns with my interest. It seems that, in following my line of reasoning, you have reached the exact opposite of my intended conclusion. My point is that, in Reality, there is only ever one eternall...
by Serendipper
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:56 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Arguments against temporal finitism
Replies: 5
Views: 11165

Re: Arguments against temporal finitism

If the infinite future can have a starting point (namely, the present), and thus be an example of an infinite which stretches endlessly in one direction only, then the same logical courtesy must be given to the infinite past which stretches back from the present. I'm curious if you have a proof for...
by Serendipper
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

I just happened to stumble upon this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXL_0SqPbA FWD to 47:45 Is it real or is it not real? When an oriental says "for something that is not real" the first thing he means is "it's not permanent". And so the quality of change of the smoke-like and...
by Serendipper
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

What is the difference between existence and existence in the abstract? Abstract means a concept or an idea. If one is not allowed to conceive existence, then no one can recognize (much less challenge) if a thing exists. Abstract - 1. thought of apart from concrete realities, specific objects, or a...
by Serendipper
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:50 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: That which is causelessly here
Replies: 18
Views: 22718

Re: That which is causelessly here

Fundamentally, ALL 'things' and 'events' (including 'ourselves') are actually arbitrarily delineated, impermanent features of the manifested 'being' of 'That which is causelessly here'. This manifestation is commonly known as the universe, and is the only real manifestation there ever is. Hello and...
by Serendipper
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:10 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

My point was that to require proof or rationale for simultaneous existence and nonexistence as a possibility is not different than requiring proof for the possibility of some pure exclusivity of the binary state: to exist or not. In that case I thank you for bringing the thought-provoking binary an...
by Serendipper
Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: How do we embrace ruin?
Replies: 9
Views: 14482

Re: How do we embrace ruin?

To me, philosophy is fun, but one day it will get old and I'll move to something else. More realistically, you will just get old and all meaning, wisdom and lightness just moves on elsewhere. A different perspective then: it's not you as consumer, it's about how you are being consumed and digested....
by Serendipper
Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:29 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

I don’t understand how you can challenge the existence of the concept of existence. While challenging the existence of something, you have already conceived existence. I'm not challenging the existence of existence, but the existence of existence in the abstract. Existence is a relative term like &...
by Serendipper
Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:46 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

If you want to say you don't know, then say you don't know, but to claim the simultaneous existence and nonexistence as a possibility requires some sort of proof or rationale above and beyond just merely stating that you don't know. Why is this requirement different from claiming there are only two...
by Serendipper
Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

1) x exists 2) x does not exist 3) Neither 1 nor 2 are true. 4) Both 1 and 2 are true. 3 and 4 are both contradictory. Only 1 or 2 can be true. Either x exists, or it doesn't. It can't both exist and not exist at the same time. Neither can it not exist and not not exist at the same time. It's not t...
by Serendipper
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:38 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: How do we embrace ruin?
Replies: 9
Views: 14482

Re: How do we embrace ruin?

That might be correct; you seek simple enjoyment, then insight takes it away. Then you seek simply enjoyment elsewhere, until insight takes that away too. Finally insight has taken away all enjoyment, and enjoyment is found only in letting go. But letting go is itself a way to hang on to salvation....
by Serendipper
Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:38 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

jufa wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:49 am By taking away the 'if' you keep attempting to make relative to that which you have no knowledge of.
I have no knowledge of what you're driving at, which makes me relatively confused, so I'm going to bow out of this one and observe from the sidelines.
by Serendipper
Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:04 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: How do we embrace ruin?
Replies: 9
Views: 14482

Re: How do we embrace ruin?

The function of suffering is to loosen the grip on inadequate conceptions and encourage the ascension to a higher state of being. Without suffering people would not progress in any real sense; they would not feel any inclination to let go of insipid and shallow world-views and modes of being (feel ...
by Serendipper
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:38 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

jufa wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:32 am they are not relative to the statement and question I put before you.
Relativity does not contradict nor ascertain anything,
If relativity cannot ascertain anything, then what can be ascertained relative to your statement and question?
by Serendipper
Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Contradiction and the Absolute
Replies: 153
Views: 165745

Re: Contradiction and the Absolute

I'll try to overlook what appears to be nonsense and answer you as best I can. I'm humbly indebted to your gracious overlooking of my nonsense and for the bestowal of brilliance upon the plebeians ;) Existent things must abide by relation, and non-existent things must abide by relation. How is that...
by Serendipper
Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:37 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Value-based love for what was
Replies: 23
Views: 20889

Re: Value-based love for what was

Names are agreed upon pointers for the sake of meaning, for communication and as you know, no two minds communicate meaning in the exact same way. Our dialogue is a perfect example. I'm glad you brought that up. Objective - impartial, unbiased, unprejudiced, nonpartisan, disinterested, neutral, uni...
by Serendipper
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Why study philosophy?
Replies: 48
Views: 55539

Re: Why study philosophy?

I've been putting off responding to this because I find it so utterly obvious that there is no point, however I have been drinking a bit and I am going to foolishly respond to you. Haha you should drink more if it makes you post more :) So, do you mean "foolishly respond" because you feel...