GENIUS FORUMS

Marco, S: "are you trying to say that it does not really matter whether I hit the wall or the wall hits me as far as Space is concerned? M: Yes, that was the point! OK, so what about “motion”? Do at least ‘view points’ travel from point A to point B or not? Or does Space have no dimensions at a...

David Quinn wrote:In order to understand the causal principle fully, you have to be able to see how it is beyond energy and non-energy, indeed beyond all created existences, even while being fully responsible for their existence If “it” is indeed “beyond” all created existences, then why is it not ...

in a soup, the various chunks of meat and vegetables have no empty space in between them, there is the liquid soup holding all the chunks. The molecules in a chair might all be held together by another form of viscous matter, much like the chunks in a soup are held in place by the liquid broth. Doe...

David : The question is, does such a conception actually refer to a reality in the physical world? Or alternatively, does our mental concept of a vacuum involve a contradiction in terms? S: it might help if you could tell me if the ‘physical world’ is a contrived mental construct or not? D: It is a...

No, of course you can't. That's the whole point. It might become apparent if you think about it for a good while. Aha! I get it! I need to think ... hummm... and also that it might take quite a good and long while considering my sloppy reasoning I take it. It must be that ultimate logical reason se...

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Two and a half pages since my last post… nice… much to respond to… back soon, Jehu :)

Sapius wrote: So I think it might be wise to respect ‘boundaries’ that allow one to be what one is, and try not to sever (or insult) the hand that fundamentally feeds, or is necessarily existence itself. That would all be good and well if each human life was autonomous, but they aren't. Hummm... so...

Marco; Simple, you will observe the cannon getting away from you and the wall getting closer and eventually hit you, not you(the bullet) hitting the wall. Right? Logically, I (or the bullet) will get away from something and closer to something else if motion is to mean something; would you agree? Th...

S: Of course one can think and talk, but can one tell or confirm the validity of logic and reasoning on which thinking itself is based on, in an absolute sense? We simply accept it since there is no way out. D: Given that logic is an expression of identity (A=A), and that identity is an expression ...

. Me too... me too... (Waves left hand frantically) David: From the human race's current perspective, a vacuum is a contrived mental construct. It is something we have imagined by mentally abstracting everything away from a conceived region of space. The question is, does such a conception actually ...

Marco: Let say that you are observing a thing moving from A to B, right? (exterior view point) So I am, say view point O (the observer) Now, imagine that thing be you, from that point of view, A is moving away from you and B is getting closer to you, right? (same space different time) What "th...

John: Does 'existence' precede 'consciousness' or does C precede E? This is a false question. Returning to the topic at hand… but of course. David? Your views? Would you like to actually contribute to the thread topic at hand or continue with egotistical pleasures? You haven’t actually said anythin...

Jehu: There are but two ways in which an entity may be constituted: either it is possessed of its own intrinsic causes (self-caused), or it is dependent upon extrinsic causes (other-caused); the former partakes of an absolute (necessary) existence, the latter, a relative (contingent) existence. The...

I still have a few hours before I go on my trip… and of course, I could not resist, to the point of canceling my trip when reading recent posts... well... BH: There is no such thing as empty space. A vacuum is a mental construct and does not exist in the phenomenal world. If vacuum is a ‘mental cons...

John, Sapius, I am not following you? Where did you get the phrase "hooked up on words" (I did not use it)? No, you did not… but since you were explaining David’s supposed intentions, I was actually referring to his pet statements… (on the previous page of this thread which got our private...

Loki: There are two conclusions which are necessary if one is to think of them as separate. 1) These two objects are comprised of a finite amount of matter. 2) These two objects have empty space (non-matter) in between them. In addition... by definition (or the famous A=A), if one wants to look at ...

John: I presume David asked the question to tease out its latent or opaque content to induce thinking in the brain, or, as it is said, a thought experiment as a working tool for philosophers or, as now they are called, conceptual engineers. In short, David is cleaning up vagueness in our thinking s...

I guess I was typing while you posted, John; I am of the same opinion as you have expressed. Ask me a question that has purpose, since it shields a fresh insight from our scientific literature which is low hanging fruit ripe for plucking! There is no end to Knowledge; the more I learn, I learn how l...

John: Does 'existence' precede 'consciousness' or does C precede E? This is a false question. Returning to the topic at hand… but of course. David? Your views? Would you like to actually contribute to the thread topic at hand or continue with egotistical pleasures? You haven’t actually said anythin...

Sapius, just stop talking-eh? David, I'm just wondering if everyone knows that much of what you believe regarding the Infinite, or Absolute, are tenets of Mahayana Buddhism. Not to minimize its importance or anything of the sort. Why… you enjoying this? Heheheheeee…. Well, such drivel and personal ...

David: You're being evasive, Sapius. Since when is that a crime? On the other hand, it could be a lack of understanding on your part. You know exactly what I am asking. You have intimated that the dumb questions and objections you repeatedly raise on this forum are not a result of your ignorance, b...

David: It seems we are talking about different things when it comes to the "leap". What I was referring to was the leap in understanding which occurs when one makes the logical connections in the mind that resolve the issue - in this case, the issue of non-duality. Then that wouldn’t be a...

BM: The leap is to look at things from an absolute perspective. From an absolute perspective all things arise interdependently. I understand what you mean, but merely looking is possible by simply comprehending the facts, a leap would be a different matter, if that were not so, every other person w...

David: I was speaking in a practical sense. There aren’t two senses… only the sense of existence as far as I can see. Could there be an “impractical” sense from any particular point of view? Even getting enlightened is in a practical sense, for what exactly does one practically gain from it would b...

David: One can think and talk about it when one has uncovered the creative principle behind all things, whether they be hallucinations or non-hallucinations. Of course one can think and talk, but can one tell or confirm the validity of logic and reasoning on which thinking itself is based on, in an...