GENIUS FORUMS

Glostik: All you seem to be doing is articulating the Evangelical Christian interpretation of the Gospels. You seem to want only to put forward the doctrine in its entirety, in the face of which one can only accept or reject. That is a rigid position. Christian doctrine, at least in the present, is...

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that is a fallacy. I would call it; argument ad vercundiam (appeal to authority) or it could be simply an appeal to a baseless assumption ("I merely have to take John at his word") or it could be circular logic; John is right because he said he is r...

Chill out Animus - I think that Glostic's youtube video needs to be considered - and maybe do go into scientific links proving (scientifically, anyway) about witnesses. Unbelievable, I have only one answer for that. All reasoning is circular. ;) I actually agree with that description of enlightenme...

Thats not really relevant. You aren't going to escape the pitfalls of visual fixation and confabulation by enlightenment. If you think being an enlightened being means that you are no longer subject of human folly, then I'm skeptical of your version of enlightenment. Just a heads up, I have no atta...

An eye-witness isn't good enough for a court room, it's rather circumstantial evidence. It's been demonstrated that witnesses are actually bad evidence. This is for various reasons - which I won't get into - in the neursocience of perception. John 19:35 says: The man who saw it has given testimony,...

It is possible that both of you---the religionist and the rationalist---miss the point. One of the most amazing and enduring facts of life---human life and human consciousness---has to do with a recurring theme: resurrection . Our lives are a series of births, living-narratives, endings-deaths, and...

To me; Jesus in the flesh represents the ego, and the crucifixion represents the death of the ego. Christ represents Truth. Jesus died but Christ lives. Jesus was symbolically a manifestation of the Truth in bodily form so that humans would identify with it. It loses its quality somewhat though in ...

If anything, that proves it. Since many have undertaken to set down an orderly account of the events that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed on to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word, I too decided, after investigating everything careful...

I think that David is just quoting those words or passages that he thinks are wise, and giving credit to the authors. This would be fine, if he gave credit to more than one author. Unfortunately, he only gives credit to one author. I think it's probable that Jesus was a wise man of sorts, but there...

When I think of duality I am pondering on a cube. Something great, big, enormous for thought. Now, what does this have to do with anything? Nothing. I was at the dmv the other day and while looking at some posted signs it occured to me that this is what paul was speaking to us about in the book of ...

Duality exists when defining something draws a boundary between that which it is and that which it is not. The Infinite does not have any boundaries surrounding it. There is nothing that is not part of the Infinite; even nothingness itself is part of the Infinite. This is what I believe too. So how...

If the Truth equals Jesus Okay, if Truth = Jesus, then anywhere one writes Jesus, it would be just as valid to write Truth. Let's try that on one of your statements. Through Jesus' sacrifice you are able to remove the virus of sin by accepting and believing what he did. Through Truth's sacrifice yo...

It is apparent that Thomas is not like any of the other gospels because it doesn't read with the narrative style The middle of Proverbs seemed far more disjointed to me than any other part of the Bible, but it's still in the Old Testament. If the beginning and the end of Proverbs was burned, the mi...

Everything could be wrong, including the teachings of Jesus Christ. How can one who is omnipotent be wrong? Besides the Bible professes "knowledge" of God, not "faith" of God's existence, merely "faith" in the operation of God. Jesus was a fleshly representation, a sym...

I think that is something many died-in-the-wool Christians cannot see or accept. Christianity, and Judaism, invite one to see a kind of limited model of what God is. I think your right. Many people try and fit God with their egos. They believe God died for us because he saw something worth saving. ...

Here we go with the "Is this genuine Christ stuff" I only have one thing to say to this: John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Truth as Truth stands alone and can be discerned by many means, plunging into the depth...

They say to separate ourselves from emotion, but Jesus expressed emotion several times in the gospels. No separation, more like undercutting the need for it arising altogether. Good point. Although I think at times its impossible to undercut your emotion. You should decide for yourself, not basing ...

So, we know that the early Church fought many protracted and bitter battles against rival schools of thought and various regional power-centers, and we know that our of that rose a specific canon, and if you will a Politically Correct doctrine. I think we have to assume that a large part of this st...

The problem is that what is known about the likely content of Q does not match the known content of Thomas at all in terms of verse selection. Thomas might have used Q as well but deviates a lot too, often in small but significant ways from the canon. If that means the canon is corrupted or Thomas ...

Oh God, here we go...First, a cordial hello to Iowa from rural California. I just was reading about a reporter's new book: Methland which deals on some events in rural Iowa. I like to make as many connections between what we think, in the abstract, and what we live, in the here and now. I don't bel...

Welcome Glostik, Thanks :) One clue for its possible older dating is the generally accepted existence of a Q as source for the canonical gospels. Another collection of sayings making it in terms of style similar to Thomas. The authorship and history of formation of the four gospels are unclear as w...

Hey everyone, I'm new here to the forum. After looking up some teachings of Diogenes on google I happened to stumble upon David Quinn's website of all places. As I read all the books I was very impressed by such deep thinking. Anyway, I thought I'd start on some familiar ground (me being a Baptist) ...