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Tim, do you think of yourself as a nazi?

Hodges, are you a gullible Goyim?

. Faust, the questions I left below on the nature of consciousness are important if you want to convince me we are already robots (in any sense other than organisms about their organic business). I think I am safe in saying that the robot would have nothing left of an indeterminate nature. It would...

I've already provided evidence that random events could occur. You've, so far, provided no evidence to suggest that everything is caused. An assertion doesn't make something so. To rejection the possibility of random events because you can imagine that radioactive decay might not be random isn't ov...

Shah, Everybody talks like that for obvious reasons, but I have encountered many people who believe they have libertarian free will. I'd imagine that they hold such views because it feels to them like they have free will. I'd also imagine that they've encountered enough folks who reject free will o...

Faust, It's all hidden variables sheesh. I mean we cannot see everything that happens, so just because you can't predict it doesn't mean it's not there. Quantum theorists want to be magicians or something. Speaking of magic, on what grounds are you suggesting that nothing can occur randomly? It see...

Faust13, No randomness really cannot exist, I don't know where you're going with this. Give me an example of randomness, something that is totally uncaused, and rolling dice isin't random in the physical/reality sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_slit_experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...

Matt said, The experience of free will is always there, but the determinist repudiates the reality of it. I must be the only person who doesn't experience it. . freewill is an illusion that is all. Of course, but it's an illusion that I don't have, and everyone else I know claims to have it. Am I m...

For I cannot see any benevolent and loving god who will allow evil to happen especially to people that don't have freewill. Nothing happens outside God and his will by definition, even by most definitions Christians use. This logically leads to the conclusion that ideas like benevolent, loving and ...

. (moved to here) David writes: No determinist worth his salt would ever conceive of determinism in this way. It is cartoon determinism which you are describing here. Understanding determinism as a philosophic principle has nothing to do with recognizing patterns in nature or making predictions abo...

Since you do seem to know a lot about this, why don't you help me to understand it better...but don't go into causality, I'm well aware of that...I would like you to go into the psychology of mind that thinks you are determined. It is not that I don't understand the definition of it...I just cannot...

Determinism has nothing to do with free will. When we imagine free will in such a way that it can be proven false by determinism, we should see that such a conception of free will is false even in a partially or completely random system. One is not free to will what he will if that which he wills i...

Shahrazad wrote:Matt said,

The experience of free will is always there, but the determinist repudiates the reality of it.

I must be the only person who doesn't experience it.

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freewill is an illusion that is all.

PT, It is why what Radhakrishnan said makes more sense to me…our past determines what we are in the present, but the choice to change our future is free. Sounds quite right, and if a reasoning consciousness was an absolute slave to determinism to the core, then those that think that they think, a...

How do you know this to be true? Is consciousness randomly parceled out? Is the ability to gain wisdom a genetic crap shoot? I think not. It is why what Radhakrishnan said makes more sense to me…our past determines what we are in the present, but the choice to change our future is free. To me, th...

Maybe if I break it down into even more basic chunks for you. Asking what caused causality is..... Think about just that little chunk for a moment. "Caused causality" - If something caused causality, it too would be a cause, and therefore also part of causality. The cause of that would al...

Since you do seem to know a lot about this, why don't you help me to understand it better...but don't go into causality, I'm well aware of that...I would like you to go into the psychology of mind that thinks you are determined. It is not that I don't understand the definition of it...I just cannot...

Faust13 wrote: But what caused causality? What's the reason for causality to exist? And don't say because you prefer rationality over irrationality. What I don't understand about the infinite causal chain of the universe is that there's no cause for this causal chain, and, there's no cause or reaso...

Asking what caused causality is like asking what's on the outside of the Infinite. Infinity has no begining or end. It's like trying to conceive of the meaning of the over-used sci-fi phrase "before time began" as in that for there to be a before, there would have to be time to delineate ...

too bad these vids don't work anymore

Eternal Tom wrote: Religous debates, much like moral debates seem pointless, since they aren't empirically proveable I agree that debating religious beliefs which are rooted in empiricism (e.g. God is a big grandfather in the sky) is a waste of time. It is like debating whether aliens exist on othe...

It goes much further and deeper than that. Your depiction of my conception of causality is very wide of the mark. I spell out my thoughts on causality and its logical poofs in some detail in my ebook, so I will refer you there if you're interested. - But what caused causality? What's the reason for...

*If he believes in free will *he must feel that his thoughts are actively controlled by him *Therefore his thoughts are not part of passively incoming experience *he would define "experience" to consist only of the five senses *if he doesn't believe in free will *he must feel that his tho...

I remember solving the "which came first, the chicken or the egg" thing once. But now I can't remember how I solved it. The egg came first because the thing that laid the egg of the first chicken would be something in the evolutionary pattern that was not yet quite a chicken. The first ch...

Anyone read Hume's causation problem? From what I got out of it, it just seems to me to be Hume's superficiality and desire to have fun with skepticism. Can we actually not be able to 'see' this causality?

First we have to make it clear that freewill doesn't really exist, and just because you believe it exists doesn't make it so.