GENIUS FORUMS

prince: if you have something to contribute, articulate it clearly, otherwise it will be mistaken for parenthetical burbs and farts.

Either one can be born in hell, or as an animal, in a future life after death, or these are mental realms of existence. They can't both be true. They are entirely different things. I have been trying to show that they are not different things at all There is a difference between being reborn as an ...

K wrote: "For if enlightenment doesn't exist within the spheres of time, then we'll have to come up with another word for the time a person becomes free of delusions, other than "enlightenment". " Well, as Tonto said to the Lone Ranger as the latter suggested they make a stand ag...

First, that last one was an excellent post. Thanks. K wrote: "Yes, the same as the essence all things. I don't know why you want to focus on mind, rather than, say, a brick. It leads people to think that you hold the essence of consciousness to be different to the essence of brick, which, essen...

re: "[you suggest that it's an unwillingness to accept Eastern methods: alternatively, it may simply be that the Eastern methods have flaws that make their answers no better than the Western ones])." No, I didn't suggest that - nor even think it actually. There are so few westerners famili...

Trevor: thx again for another thoughtful post. I am running off now but wanted to respond briefly to one point above in terms of physicality etc. and how we don't see it in the same way. That is fine. It is helpful, however, as I am sure you can agree, to go over the different views of the shared te...

no such ignorant person existed before, during or after 'enlightenment'. So we're back to where we started again. If no ignorant person exists then there's no point to anyone trying to rid themselves of their delusions and seek to live more truthfully. You're stuck with that view. there is no thing...

K wrote: "and it is possible for an ignorant person to become enlightened," no such ignorant person existed before, during or after 'enlightenment'. Or: there is no thing or substance known as enlightenment, just as there will never be found a graviton or mentron. Enlightenment is a result...

K, example for 'wisdom resides in the body'.

'And remember, when practicing deep meditation or concentration, that wisdom resides in the body, so that regarding enlightenment as something outside or beyond the physical can become a hindrance.'

For example.

Re the nature of awareness is non-local: "If this were true then all things would have awareness. All things are not aware. Therefore your statement is false." Kevin, really, that is silly logic and you know it. In the last few posts on the thread it is clear that indeed we are not all dis...

Trevor, I appreciate the personal, direct nature of your last post and value it. To conclude you wrote: "Quite simply, there is no doubt in my mind that there is a one-to-one correspondance between mind and brain. If you don't believe this, sample a few hits of d-lysergenic acid or pop a couple...

"Why do you find this more convincing than simply putting it all in the head? Distributing the mind all over the body like this would make access times incredibly long. Our bodies already have to compensate for the time it takes information to travel to the brain by reflex action. Are people on...

though I am still waiting for a pronouncement about the fly question rather than a diversion.... You know what the answer to that question is, so there's no need for an answer from me. Well, from my perspective: size cannot be measured when dealing with consciousness any more than location pinpoint...

Which is also why neither the brain or big toe can possibly ever be 'the seat of consciousness' which is essentially non-local and non-physical without any shadow of doubt, equivocation or evidence to the contrary whatsoever. (except to animals). This is where you're wrong. A person's consciousness...

"If we didn't create such boundaries, nothing would exist." Very true. That is why one and many (local / universal) are both inseparable, different, true and false all at once - i.e. none more like it. Which is also why neither the brain or big toe can possibly ever be 'the seat of conscio...

Kevin: disregarding any value judgments in terms of lower or higher do you think that

a fly has less consciousness than a Buddha?

"So you're planning on rebirth as an animal again. See you in a few hundred lifetimes." No. I checked my schedule and remembered: I'm invited for a week-long ambrosia-fest in Tusita Heaven. Since this week lasts several centuries in human-animal time, when I come back down, although assure...

Kevin: disregarding any value judgments in terms of lower or higher do you think that

a fly has less consciousness than a Buddha?

"Prove what? All you have to do is look. Other people can't do the work for you." I have looked. Have spent years looking. Unlike you, I do not take refuge in vague generalisations like 'all people have...' etc. Which is obviously not true ( the 'all' part) anyway (since some scientists no...

I am being somewhat flippant, Kevin, mainly in response to your haughty tone and your use of wild generalisations in order to deliver dagger-like blows. The generality blunts the delivery so much as to turn the blade into rubber. Another anecdote - which you will no doubt ridicule but anyway. As I s...

"All people who have examined the issue recognize the brain as the seat of consciousness."

Prove it!

No seriously: more lamb, more vegetables, more potatoes, more companionship!! It will help, really it will!

So that apparently sane and solid situation without a sense of humour is the animal realm." There's a place for humour, but some things are simply not funny. For example, it's not funny to hear the Dalai Lama say that new souls perhaps come from other planets, to allow for population growth. L...

Alright, more seriously, Kevin wrote (ignoring the two word change joke-point): "Water is one of things that causes the seat I am sitting on. (eg, the workers who made the seat depend on water). But that doesn't change the fact that a seat is still a seat. Likewise water is one of the things th...

I can tell from the above response that the patient did not take the recommended prescription.

Oh well....

( I assure it will work wonders! )

"So you're planning on rebirth as an animal again. See you in a few hundred lifetimes." Now, now, if you keep indulging in such cat-fighting type repartee, not only are you risking remaining in animalian rigidity, but also you will be violating the non-feminine type of communication espous...