GENIUS FORUMS

Both hope and optimism can substitute for will and action. I mean, I don't have a huge issue with them, but I guess I find them somewhat redundant concepts in the face of genuine drive and purpose. If I have a burning ambition to achieve some end, what is there to be optimistic about? That I can? W...

Girls do like gurus. It's fun, directing your "devotion" onto something tangible. I think the sheer number of females in this position is what makes McKenna write the way he does. Over and over, he provides himself [fictional] opportunities to act from the male/female divide, and he doesn...

Girls do like gurus. It's fun, directing your "devotion" onto something tangible. I think the sheer number of females in this position is what makes McKenna write the way he does. Over and over, he provides himself [fictional] opportunities to act from the male/female divide, and he doesn'...

McKenna: The main benefit most spiritually inclined people can derive from having a clear understanding of what it really means to be truth-realized is not so they can achieve it, but so they can dispense with it and reset their spiritual sights on something worthier than enlightenment, which is li...

McKenna: The main benefit most spiritually inclined people can derive from having a clear understanding of what it really means to be truth-realized is not so they can achieve it, but so they can dispense with it and reset their spiritual sights on something worthier than enlightenment, which is li...

Thanks David & Dan for responding to my post about the Brett character. David, David, She has already made up her mind that knowledge cannot be had and that anyone who thinks he possesses knowledge is automatically deluded. Her mind is as shut as the New Age people she criticizes. Unfortunately,...

By the way, I hope it's not an unforgiveable sin to paste someone's writing, out of context, onto an internet forum.

I apologize for the long post. I am doing this mainly to provide the material for Jed's character "Brett" in his third book, Spiritual Warfare . Dan told me that a while ago David had created a fictional character named "Justine" that may have been similar (an enlightened woman) ...

I think this is why Jed recommends starting with the question "what is true?" and hacking your own way through the falseness. Maybe one needs to also carefully define or explore the words true and knowledge. In fact, pondering the question "what does it mean to know something", ...

Iolaus wrote:My own intuition tells me how to approach things. I listen to the inner voice of my guides.

What if your guides are leading you on a phantasmagorical tour of the Land of Delusion? Seriously. What if "your intuition" is really Maya?

Could all those who have read McKenna's books give a synopsis of this thing he refers to: "Human Adulthood"? I get that he uses it as an alternative for those who can't quite do the full enlightenment thing, but I'm struggling to get what it actually means. Hmm, I think it is a necessary ...

McKenna: It is not possible to knowledgeably choose or want Spiritual Enlightenment. To desire it is to misunderstand it. Ego cannot desire egolessness. One does not undergo the process of awakening out of love for the true but out of hatred for the false; a hatred so intense that it burns everythi...

The reason most spiritual books are nonsense is that they do not bother with definitions. How do you define enlightenment? Unless definitions are precise one will be trapped in useless language games. Interesting question. Right now, I'd define it as no longer living a lie, untruth-unrealization, a...

rebecca702, Welcome to the board. Great to have you. Would you please address by name those to whom you reply, or attribute those you quote, so unenlightened persons such as myself can follow along? Thanks. Thanks for the welcome. And sorry about that - after a little more fooling around, I finally...

Maestro - I'm going to post the preamble to that quote. --- This conversation is more interesting to me than many because I'm clarifying it for myself as we go along. When the topic is enlightenment, I can speak with the perfect authority of a true master and my only real challenge is how to transmi...

Maestro wrote: All this praise heaped on Jed caused me to pick up his first book. I would say that the praise is undeserved; McKenna is just play-acting the part of the contrarian Zen master. If you have any doubts about his philosophical depth look at the following passage. Quote: "Success in...

This is a reply to Iolaus. How the hell is enjoying life imitating enlightenment? What I mean is, sitting back and enjoying life, fully enjoying it, would require me to ignore the voice of the "little bastard" telling me that truth exists, and this ain't it. I'm not saying I don't enjoy li...

Namely, that seekers mistake the fruits of enlightenment, such as nonattachment, for the process of getting there. They think they should imitate the behaviors, rather than figure out how in the hell to achieve their state of perception. Because the only way to waste time in life is to not be enjoy...

"That's not a personal attack, this is a personal attack!"

It's a goddamned free-for-all!

Awesome.

I just had a very good laugh. Thank you all.

By the way, I hope this is received in the spirit of discussion and not as a personal attack. If I am being overly contrary for this forum, I hope the administrators will tell me.

Iolaus wrote: Dan, I've been thinking about your question. I feel sure he has made some points that y'all haven't, but I will have to maybe thumb through and look. One difference is, he definitely respects motherhood. Dan replied: That sets off alarm bells for me, Anna, as you might imagine. Can yo...

Iolaus, And you, Kid, you've got way too much angst. It's a waste of time, you know. I don't know if I agree with that. What is your definition of a "waste of time"? Isn't angst, or discontent, the fuel that you use to bust out of your delusions? Being severely pissed off that you've, shal...

I would love to invite Jed here, but he disappeared from Facebook. :(

David, Thanks for the link to that thread - I will check that out. Dan, Your pdf viewer doesn't have a "select" option in the menu? Nope. It can "grab" stuff by making a selection box, basically a screen-shot. Can't do more than one page at a time. Maybe I will see if I can open ...