GENIUS FORUMS

It doesn't make sense to say that the ego ideal is all about the good in people (or that it exists). There is no inherent "good" aspect of people, it's all selfishness and most of it is subconscious. Everything from stealing televisions to helping old ladies cross the street is all done in...

how can a delusional person know if someone else is NOT delusional? Then they wouldn't be delusional would they ? Well there's always the possibility that they're both delusional. how can a person know for sure that he or she is enlightened? How can a person know for sure they aren't ? It would tak...

Back to the OP of this thread.....can you prove scientifically if you are Enlightened or that Enlightenment even exists ? [Or can science prove scientifically that someone is Enlightened ? ] Well first we would have to define what enlightenment means. The accepted definition is "living without...

Leyla Shen wrote:Agree with what? That ego is desire and therefore it follows desire is the entire impetus of human life and existence?

No.

Because there's clearly another element.

What would you call that element?

Leyla Shen wrote:I explained how it works. This is about your non-conception of ego.

So does that mean you would agree if rationality where included as a separate factor?

Orenholt : I would say that it's basically logical based on my understanding. I would say, what is your understanding of logic (since I am already questioning your understanding of the subject matter in question, of course)? Any of these definitions for logic work. http://dictionary.reference.com/b...

Dan Rowden wrote:In that case I don't have any real problem with it. It simply means dying in the ego (as I define it, not as you are) and being reborn without it. No biggie.

Pretty much.

Dan Rowden wrote:Well, that's all perfectly reasonable till they get to the part about leaving the physical body and living in spirit. Unless that's meant to be metaphorical, it's silly.

I'm pretty sure it was metaphorical.

What I would like you to do is show me the reason you have "chosen" a different model. You have (partially) adopted the reasoning behind id and superego, and rejected ego (not to mention the preconscious and the never-discussed conscious). On what grounds; logical and empirical? I would s...

You remind me of someone... In any event: I do comprehend it, [...] I beg to differ. You will have to prove you comprehend it. Freud basically thought that they were separate entities that interacted with each other from my understanding and that the super ego was the source of conscience and targe...

Dan Rowden wrote:Somehow I get the feeling you didn't get the explanation.

Well this is the source we were discussing:
http://www.hermes-press.com/plato_index.htm

So, that was altogether rhetorical, then? I'm just wondering if there are other morals that are "always" right or wrong. What is right or wrong is what we say is right or wrong. Simple as that. I don't even think in terms of morality anymore. Morality is for people who don't know what mor...

at the heart of that a desire for a condition that is not the condition present is desired. to leave the finger there is a scarcity of the desired condition. to cut it off is an abundance of the desired condition. desire is at the very root of our life force. Ok you make a point there. I guess I ju...

But the way that many people especially on this forum present wisdom it's totally useless in the practical world and soul devouring to boot. On the contrary, becoming wise is the most practical thing to do, and the most beneficial and healing to one's soul. If it's so "healing" why is it ...

So, it's a Supply problem. something about abundance and scarcity. collateral damage for the ultimate sake of. subject/object split materialist thinking. desire. Idealistic thinking producing ethics/justice is a problem concerning supply. something about abundance and scarcity. regulating activity ...

Lol, it's alright Kunga. Maybe helping others IS that golden goose for you. ;)

Kunga wrote:I think there is a "Enlightenment" seed planted in all of us.....if the right conditions are there, it will grow.
We all have "Buddha Nature".

I would agree for the most part but why do you want to make it grow?

I've long since given up those dreams and lost my meaning in life. How exactly did you know that you were righteous, just, and noble? Is the state of complacency, apathy, nihilism, and fatalism you seem to be in now a life-saving break or retreat or safehaven or sanctuary from a past that was leadi...

what gives rise to murder? causes/conditions. greed? envy? self-preservation? peer/herd pressure? It could be any of those. But in the end it's only because the killer thinks their life will be better somehow if they do kill. So, that was altogether rhetorical, then? I'm just wondering if there are...

That influence which precedes the influence of the conceptual and makes the unapparent earth aspect of the universe (form) apparent, when followed by the conceptual - according to the logic of the statement. So basically you're saying that there is an objective reality before a subject can experien...

Your opinion of the bible is irrelevant. Since you cannot ignore your opinion which appears to have such a tremendous influence on your thought process, I will ignore it for you, in this statement. The unapparent universe is caused by the infinite, then made apparent by spirit followed by word (whi...

#1 The first three verses of Genesis appear to say that the unapparent universe is caused by the infinite, then made apparent by spirit followed by word: 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. ...

For me personally I must admit that I have selfish reasons, as all reasons are. I've always been interested in the ultimate nature of reality as some kind of curiosity. But they say that curiosity killed the cat. I've always hated this notion because it's basically telling children "don't ask s...

Here's a question I had:

If right and wrong are subjective then how can murder always be wrong?
Murder is by it's definition immoral so wouldn't that mean that it is not subjective?
Sure the application of the word murder is subjective but murder itself is not.

To clarify: #1: Are you saying that the universe doesn't exist, for the reason stated? Or, are you saying that the universe does exist, and the reason it exists is because it's finite? #2: What is 100% true, without a doubt? 1.)I'm simply saying that the universe doesn't have an appearance because ...