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- Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:04 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: So you’re enlightened.
- Replies: 84
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Iolaus; While my question was directed at those who have proclaimed their enlightenment, I am interested in your thoughts on this and anyone else who wishes to share their thoughts. Do no harm < http://donoharm.us/ >, clyde p.s: Katy, if by “philosophy†you mean the literal love of wisdom and no...
- Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:05 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: So you’re enlightened.
- Replies: 84
- Views: 17595
I am disappointed. I asked, Without debating who is enlightened and what is enlightenment, but accepting the “who†and “what†of those who proclaim their enlightenment and their understanding of enlightenment, my inquiry to those who make such proclamations is this: Does your enlightenment e...
- Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:26 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: So you’re enlightened.
- Replies: 84
- Views: 17595
Dan; You asked, Enlightenment does NOT afford a particular ethical or purpose paradigm. How could it? Your next sentence is, It stops ignorant behaviour. Isn’t that a change in behavior? Isn’t that the principle of an ethical system? . . . Stop Ignorant Behaviour! How do you discern ignorant beh...
- Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:57 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: So you’re enlightened.
- Replies: 84
- Views: 17595
I think you're referring to The Ten Bulls. See:
http://www.zenandbusiness.com/10%20Bulls.htm
Do no harm <http://donoharm.us/>,
clyde
http://www.zenandbusiness.com/10%20Bulls.htm
Do no harm <http://donoharm.us/>,
clyde
- Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:16 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: So you’re enlightened.
- Replies: 84
- Views: 17595
Dan; It was not my intent to represent or misrepresent what enlightenment is. You wrote, No, enlightenment doesn't really effect these things. If there is no difference in behavior between an ignorant (unenlightened) human being and an enlightened human being, then one cannot discern between enlight...
- Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:27 am
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: So you’re enlightened.
- Replies: 84
- Views: 17595
Yes, one could discuss who is enlightened and what is enlightenment, but that is not my intent. Without debating who is enlightened and what is enlightenment, but accepting the “who†and “what†of those who proclaim their enlightenment and their understanding of enlightenment, my inquiry to ...
- Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:07 pm
- Forum: GENIUS FORUM
- Topic: So you’re enlightened.
- Replies: 84
- Views: 17595
So you’re enlightened.
So you’re enlightened. What are you going to do? How are you going to live that is in conformity with your enlightenment?
Do no harm <http://donoharm.us/>,
clyde
Do no harm <http://donoharm.us/>,
clyde
- Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:55 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; I was not familiar with Balsekar or his teachings, only the quote. I do not support teachers who require or expect property or services from their students. Regarding the quote, it should be apparent from this thread that I support examination, logic and reason. That said, I like the imager...
- Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:03 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; Thank you for affording me the opportunity to present my understanding of “do no harmâ€. It has been a challenge and a pleasure addressing your concerns and questions. Words must be used like stepping stones: lightly and with nimbleness, because if you step on them too heavily, you incur...
- Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:16 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; I wrote in an earlier post, “Do no harm†is not a religion or a group, unless you call two friends who promote “do no harm†a group. And, “Do no harm†is not a new idea. It is certainly expressed in many philosophic, religious, and spiritual traditions; so, “do no harm†is n...
- Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:41 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
DISCLAIMER : “Do No Harm†in not associated with any organization or religion. It is non-sectarian. I am a Buddhist sympathizer and understand “do no harm†in terms that are meaningful to me, but “Do No Harm†is not based on or limited to my meager understanding. Do no harm < http://don...
- Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:15 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
- Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:07 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; You wrote, Liberation is about understanding and living truth. Doesn’t “living truth†mean acting based on truth and isn’t that the exercise of wisdom and compassion? That is what “do no harm†means to me, acting with wisdom and compassion. You may object and insist that the wor...
- Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:28 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Today, Thursday, November 23, 2006, is Thanksgiving Day in the United States. Other countries and cultures have similar days of giving thanks. In observance, I urge you and everyone else reading this post to promote “Do No Harm†as a way of “giving thanksâ€. I invite you and everyone else rea...
- Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:47 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; I have repeatedly stated that harm is not defined as one’s personal experience of suffering, but the suffering experienced by others. And I have repeatedly stated that “do no harm†is not the avoidance of one’s personal suffering, but refraining from actions (or non-action) that cau...
- Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:44 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; It appears to me that we have focused on four main issues, three of which we have discussed in some detail. You continue to assert that I have written that harm is the personal experience of suffering and “do no harm†is the avoidance of one’s personal suffering, but that is not the c...
- Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:37 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
- Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:48 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
- Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:25 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
We don’t need any special realization to know what gives us more pleasure or more pain. But the realization however is to understand how both pleasure and pain are attachments that form the suffering. This insight doesn't come automatically during the experiencing of what we classify, on a rather...
- Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:09 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; Also, the point of the message “do no harm†is not to ignore our experience of suffering, but to act with attention, understanding and empathy (in other words: with mindfulness, wisdom and compassion). In the end, I believe our disagreement here is that you see “do no harm†as a de...
- Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:30 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; Also, the point of the message “do no harm†is not to ignore our experience of suffering, but to act with attention, understanding and empathy (in other words: with mindfulness, wisdom and compassion). In the end, I believe our disagreement here is that you see “do no harm†as a det...
- Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:13 am
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
- Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:41 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; I used the terms “distress†(note the ‘dis-stress’) and “disease†(note the ‘dis-ease’) to keep within the metaphor. I could have written, “a wise doctor recommends medicine that may initially cause the patient suffering, but ultimately cures the cause of suffering. Such a...
- Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:28 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
- Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:24 pm
- Forum: Help Desk
- Topic: Do No Harm
- Replies: 256
- Views: 55382
Diebert; I don’t know whether an animal experiences stress, but if some animals experience fear, then I would answer: Yes, I think some animals experience stress. So the ability to experience a sensation in a body, you relate to the degree of experience of stress? It seems you are saying here the ...