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by Kelly Jones
Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:01 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."
Replies: 76
Views: 7045

Re: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."

Before one can discuss particular strategies however, a call to "know the deluded mind" has to be issued. One needs to be a greater physiologist and psychologist than a Nietzsche, a Kierkegaard, a Freud and a Jung combined. "Before me there was no psychology at all" -- Nietzsche in Ecco Homo If you...
by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:42 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Calling The Next Generation
Replies: 22
Views: 2602

Re: Calling The Next Generation

Well, given the increasing inertia of the admins, you're unlikely to get them banning anyone other than Viagra and mobile phone touts.

Good luck with whatever you get up to. Hope the vids come out soon.

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by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:10 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

If you care to continue the discussion, ardy, I'll repost the thread over at the Men of the Infinite forum. And end with my latest reply.

See you if I see you.


Kelly
by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:35 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Calling The Next Generation
Replies: 22
Views: 2602

Re: Calling The Next Generation

It looks like Kevin, David, and Dan aren't interested in helping with maintaining the forum more actively than they're currently doing. Kevin's solution to the trolling by Kunga and Dennis is to ignore them, or to respond simply explaining their irrationality. But this only works if they're actually...
by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:33 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

What's, to you, is an emotional state ? Any states of mind characterised by emotion. Emotions are psychological ups and downs. Any mental experience based on the gain/loss dynamic. Equanimity is in the same group as psychological contentedness, tranquillity, peace, and so forth; which is basically ...
by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:09 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

The quote continues... "and from these [the deluded perceptions of the unenlightened mind] arise emotional states."
by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:03 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."
Replies: 76
Views: 7045

Wince TV

Project idea: Wince TV The same eye-watering sarcasm of America's Finest News Source, The Onion . But in the case of Wince TV, it's about sensationalised irrationality of a philosophical kind, instead of hyped-up but extremely banal news stores. Straightforwardly silly, like A Bit of Fry and Laurie ...
by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:36 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

KJ: No, think about the essence of identity, before any content or meaning is applied to "it", not after. What is really holding the unchangeability of identity, is Reality itself. It has always been, and always will be: itself. See, there is something happening right now: that is an eternal someth...
by Kelly Jones
Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:25 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

So you're back, MA? I thought you said you were leaving, because you didn't like the sound of starting fires to help enlighten people? Kelly: How do I know that rationality enables me to understand what is ultimately and absolutely true about all things? [snip] Kelly: See, there is something happeni...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:03 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

No, think about the essence of identity, before any content or meaning is applied to "it", not after. What is really holding the unchangeability of identity, is Reality itself. It has always been, and always will be: itself. See, there is something happening right now: that is an eternal something, ...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:49 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

How do you know your rationality is the truth? How do I know that rationality enables me to understand what is ultimately and absolutely true about all things? Let me break it down to something very simple, so as to get a handle on truth itself. Please note, I'm not talking of scientific facts here...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:30 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

Jupta wrote:And yes, reason can break down like anything else.
You mean, reason has flaws? How can that which determines all flaws, be flawed?


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by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:26 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

KJ: No one knows all the causes for the rise of anything at all. They're infinite. But that's not the point. One can't talk about egotism sensibly as something to be avoided, unless you know what it is, in order to avoid it. What is the ego, in your view, ardy? A: I find the ego to be that part whi...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:46 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

I am not talking about the causes of the rise of the ego which is something nobody seems to fully understand. No one knows all the causes for the rise of anything at all. They're infinite. But that's not the point. One can't talk about egotism sensibly as something to be avoided, unless you know wh...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:27 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

If there's no link between rationality and happiness, is it possible to reason about happiness, to understand what it is? If reasoning about happiness, destroys it, then there must be some link. And if people typically seek happiness above all else, then can they even begin to reason? Are thinkers i...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:18 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

ardy, The logical mind looks for identification with the dualistic realm and if it cannot grab onto anything it either gives up or gets confused. The death of the ego is really the inability to hold onto anything anymore, therefore many people claiming they feel as if they are about to die. Paul on ...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:06 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Re: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

Hey ardy, Would you mind splitting your latest responses off from your quoted text? It's a bit hard to follow. To do that, quotes go between the quote tags, like this: [quote]your quoted text goes here[/quote] If you want a couple of "nested" quotes, or quotes inside quotes, it is like this: [quote]...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:17 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."
Replies: 76
Views: 7045

Re: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."

Okay, but no solutions for the disadvantages of the Thinkers' Estates have been raised as yet. Some ideas on ways to overcome the "lack of a stumbling block", the lack of that direct individual conflict with gynic society, which the TE's might fall prey to? Or living in close proximity to others, pe...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:09 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"
Replies: 32
Views: 3110

Discussion: Jupta's "Barriers on the Spiritual Path"

Interesting essay. Bringing it down to the nugget, I'd like to see a focus on two core issues: what is it exactly, about seeking happiness, that prevents the full use of reason (and is it true that a tool like reason necessarily breaks down at some point; if so, why?) In the context of the essay, I'...
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:57 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Barriers on the spiritual path - part 1:
Replies: 1
Views: 571

Re: Barriers on the spiritual path - part 1:

Sorry to interrupt, but it'd be good to leave this thread for Jupta's essay, and place discussion in another thread.
by Kelly Jones
Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:16 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."
Replies: 76
Views: 7045

Re: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."

I'm going to use a shorter word: gynic, or gynist, to refer to feminine-minded traits. So, capitalism isn't the essence of gynist society. Nor is communism, or any other economic system. Whether one person is said to possess a thing that another person values, or more than one person, or even an ent...
by Kelly Jones
Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:35 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."
Replies: 76
Views: 7045

Re: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."

KJ: I think Leyla's mistakenly equivocating two different meanings of "society": (1) any group of individuals, (2) the egotistical forms of socialising. LS: No, I don't think I have. I have already defined the term as the productive/economic foundation of any group of individuals (primary or second...
by Kelly Jones
Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:02 pm
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."
Replies: 76
Views: 7045

Re: Projects for: "I have come to start a fire..."

I think Leyla's mistakenly equivocating two different meanings of "society": (1) any group of individuals, (2) the egotistical forms of socialising. No, I don't think I have. I have already defined the term as the productive/economic foundation of any group of individuals (primary or secondary). Th...
by Kelly Jones
Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:49 am
Forum: GENIUS FORUM
Topic: Qualities of a Spiritually Evolved Human
Replies: 328
Views: 20143

Re: Qualities of a Spiritually Evolved Human

Don't worry, ardy, you've hit the nail on the head. My "analysis" was really a tongue-in-cheek translation, bringing out in full relief the blatant stupidity of what Kunga posted. I was being ironic. Anyone who can take that rubbish seriously can't be taken seriously, so the only possible response w...