GENIUS FORUMS

David is arguing in favor of this idea. Nature is timeless because time, regardless of its nature, is entirely contained within Nature, so Nature isn't defined by it in any way.

the only thing we can do is continue to climb higher on the ladder, even if the ladder is never ending. But if all these ladder climbs are themselves part of the Absolute Truth, then there is no place to climb. You're trying to cordon off things and keep them out of the Absolute in order to argue a...

How can you be objective and logical about a woman's dress? Like if you're chatting up some woman and you say, "Hey, I saw a dress just like that at K-Mart!" You're just making a logical connection between her dress and one you experienced earlier and sharing that connection with her, but...

I've never liked the name of the forum. Interesting phenomenon, though.

Your tone is full of contempt for my view on the matter. And yours is full of contempt for mine. Just read back the postings in this thread and be a fair judge of where the retarded nonsense bit slipped in. If you further refrain from these remarks, I will gladly discuss any arguments you present. ...

I think it needs to be considered on an even more fundamental level than that. It pervades all hierarchies and systems rather than being merely the root of them.

There really is no sense in pursuing Ultimate Truth and at the same time arguing for separate truths for philosophy and science, for logical truth and truths about the real world, for truths we think about and truths we can't think about. There's only the appearance of two truths for those who have...

Yeah, good point. Maybe recognizing the divine makes us commit even worse atrocities. There's also the question of why we commit atrocities if we don't recognize the divine and why God would give us the "freedom" to not recognize it and think that's some kind of gift. I mean, I guess I sho...

It's the exact same argument that Iolaus made. God is not a babysitter, etc.

There really is no sense in pursuing Ultimate Truth and at the same time arguing for separate truths for philosophy and science, for logical truth and truths about the real world, for truths we think about and truths we can't think about. There's only the appearance of two truths for those who have...

Yeah, my story is similar. But by my thinking, if an emotion is an irrational reaction to stimuli, and most people start off irrational and slowly develop over the course of their lives and become (hopefully) more rational, then they're going to have all these pockets of emotion that they're totally...

Mortimer Adler's argument for the existence of God (Wikipedia) : In his 1981 book “How to Think About God”, Adler attempts to demonstrate God as the exnihilator of the cosmos. The steps taken to demonstrate this are as follows: 1. The existence of an effect requiring the concurrent existence and ac...

I'm not even sure the overall level of emotions can be measured in any reliable way. I think we probably don't experience emotions, but changes in emotions, since there needs to be some kind of contrast in order to experience something. But how are we to define the word "emotion" anyway? D...

Fujaro, Your whole methodology for seeking Ultimate Truth is wrong. It's not an object that can sit within consciousness, so it can't be discovered by social means like science or mathematics. It's the foundation of consciousness, so it has to be sought and found through introspecting one's own cons...

My emotions have mellowed with age. I think it's a combination of things: philosophy, hormone changes, apathy, etc.

There is no evidence that there is a creator, so even if there was a creator, the reason people believe that there is would have nothing to do with the fact that there is one.

If you asked me about computers being conscious, I don't remember.

Sorry, I expanded a little bit on it. I'm trying not to be so lazy.

It's only humans' bloated sense of self-importance that makes them think there's a superpowerful God up there that cares about their petty emotions. And the above statement of yours is: 1. your opinion, 2. your provisional belief, 3. your strong belief, 4. provable. (please pick one, or supply your...

mansman wrote:He wants to be loved...

It's only humans' bloated sense of self-importance that makes them think there's a superpowerful God up there that cares about their petty emotions.

But even when all knowledge of all bubble universes in the super universe is summed, it can not be tested to be complete. For one always can ask the following question: can all this summed knowledge be tested to be whole or is it in principle possible that the super universe itself is only a bubble...

TAWPDAWG wrote:All I see is a bunch of retards who think they're something special.

Welcome aboard. You'll fit right in.

Is what you're talking about any different from a list of 7-digit binary numbers?

You could walk up to any women and say something very objective and logical about her dress and she would interpret it negatively and get offended. Look at Samadhi's reaction in the cellphone thread, saying all reasonable views in there are due to "resentment". So, in this way, the whole i...

Well, I think the relation between power and goodness with respect to God is a sensible thing to examine and no sense can be made out of either one, so there you have it. The basic problem is that you can't make absolutes out of things that are inherently finite.

Well, none of it makes sense.